Re: NIC numbering
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:08:19PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? Here's an example. The original setup: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier After the cards are switched around in the PCI slots: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier How can I keep rl0 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 and rl1 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 and still be able to add cards or move them around? TIA, Terry Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:08:19PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? Here's an example. The original setup: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier After the cards are switched around in the PCI slots: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier How can I keep rl0 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 and rl1 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 and still be able to add cards or move them around? About the best you can do is use ifconfig(8) to set the MAC address at the same time as you configure the interface: ifconfig rl0 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 ifconfig rl1 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 which will cause the MAC address to stick with the interface number, rather than the actual card. That will work if you just keep the two cards as you've shown here, but if you add a new card that happens to end up as rl0 then you'll probably end up with a mess. As far as I know, there's no way of wiring down interface numbers to PCI bus slots, analogously to the way you can wire down SCSI devices by bus, target and LUN --- see the section on 'SCSI DEVICE CONFIGURATION' in LINT. You'ld probably have to go a bit linux-ish and have, say, eth0 as the generic name for an ethernet interface independant of the actual chipset on the NIC in order to make the most sense of that sort of wiring-down idea. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
In article local.mail.freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:52:22AM -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:08:19PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? Here's an example. The original setup: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier After the cards are switched around in the PCI slots: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier How can I keep rl0 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 and rl1 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 and still be able to add cards or move them around? About the best you can do is use ifconfig(8) to set the MAC address at the same time as you configure the interface: ifconfig rl0 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 ifconfig rl1 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 which will cause the MAC address to stick with the interface number, rather than the actual card. That will work if you just keep the two cards as you've shown here, but if you add a new card that happens to end up as rl0 then you'll probably end up with a mess. As far as I know, there's no way of wiring down interface numbers to PCI bus slots, analogously to the way you can wire down SCSI devices by bus, target and LUN --- see the section on 'SCSI DEVICE CONFIGURATION' in LINT. You'ld probably have to go a bit linux-ish and have, say, eth0 as the generic name for an ethernet interface independant of the actual chipset on the NIC in order to make the most sense of that sort of wiring-down idea. Actually, this capability has been in 5.0 for a long time, but I don't think that it was ever MFC'd to 4.x. There are network aliases for the actual physical devices, which appear as /dev/netN, where N is the index number used. These can be wired either by name or ether number at boot time: Allow wiring of net aliases in /boot/device.hints of the form: hint.net.1.dev=lo0 or hint.net.12.ether=00:a0:c9:c9:9d:63 So for the original poster, you could do (in 5.0): hint.net.1.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:b6 hint.net.2.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:d0 ifconfig net1 rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier ifconfig net2 rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier And the 'net1','net2' aliases will remain bound to whichever driver has those actual ethernet addresses, regardless of PCI ordering. -- Jonathan Thanks. That works for after the system is booted up and running. I tried adding ifconfig_net1/2 lines to rc.conf and it didn't work. ifconfig_net1=inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 255.0.0.0 You'll need to manually specify the interface list, the default is to configure only the physical interfaces, not any aliases: network_interfaces=lo0 net1 net2 -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
In article local.mail.freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:08:19PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? Here's an example. The original setup: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier After the cards are switched around in the PCI slots: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier How can I keep rl0 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 and rl1 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 and still be able to add cards or move them around? About the best you can do is use ifconfig(8) to set the MAC address at the same time as you configure the interface: ifconfig rl0 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 ifconfig rl1 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 which will cause the MAC address to stick with the interface number, rather than the actual card. That will work if you just keep the two cards as you've shown here, but if you add a new card that happens to end up as rl0 then you'll probably end up with a mess. As far as I know, there's no way of wiring down interface numbers to PCI bus slots, analogously to the way you can wire down SCSI devices by bus, target and LUN --- see the section on 'SCSI DEVICE CONFIGURATION' in LINT. You'ld probably have to go a bit linux-ish and have, say, eth0 as the generic name for an ethernet interface independant of the actual chipset on the NIC in order to make the most sense of that sort of wiring-down idea. Actually, this capability has been in 5.0 for a long time, but I don't think that it was ever MFC'd to 4.x. There are network aliases for the actual physical devices, which appear as /dev/netN, where N is the index number used. These can be wired either by name or ether number at boot time: Allow wiring of net aliases in /boot/device.hints of the form: hint.net.1.dev=lo0 or hint.net.12.ether=00:a0:c9:c9:9d:63 So for the original poster, you could do (in 5.0): hint.net.1.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:b6 hint.net.2.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:d0 ifconfig net1 rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier ifconfig net2 rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier And the 'net1','net2' aliases will remain bound to whichever driver has those actual ethernet addresses, regardless of PCI ordering. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:52:22AM -0600, Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:02:30AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:08:19PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? Here's an example. The original setup: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier After the cards are switched around in the PCI slots: $ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier How can I keep rl0 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 and rl1 associated with MAC 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 and still be able to add cards or move them around? About the best you can do is use ifconfig(8) to set the MAC address at the same time as you configure the interface: ifconfig rl0 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 ifconfig rl1 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 which will cause the MAC address to stick with the interface number, rather than the actual card. That will work if you just keep the two cards as you've shown here, but if you add a new card that happens to end up as rl0 then you'll probably end up with a mess. As far as I know, there's no way of wiring down interface numbers to PCI bus slots, analogously to the way you can wire down SCSI devices by bus, target and LUN --- see the section on 'SCSI DEVICE CONFIGURATION' in LINT. You'ld probably have to go a bit linux-ish and have, say, eth0 as the generic name for an ethernet interface independant of the actual chipset on the NIC in order to make the most sense of that sort of wiring-down idea. Actually, this capability has been in 5.0 for a long time, but I don't think that it was ever MFC'd to 4.x. There are network aliases for the actual physical devices, which appear as /dev/netN, where N is the index number used. These can be wired either by name or ether number at boot time: Allow wiring of net aliases in /boot/device.hints of the form: hint.net.1.dev=lo0 or hint.net.12.ether=00:a0:c9:c9:9d:63 So for the original poster, you could do (in 5.0): hint.net.1.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:b6 hint.net.2.ether=00:e0:29:85:49:d0 ifconfig net1 rl1: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:b6 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier ifconfig net2 rl0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ether 00:e0:29:85:49:d0 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier And the 'net1','net2' aliases will remain bound to whichever driver has those actual ethernet addresses, regardless of PCI ordering. -- Jonathan Thanks. That works for after the system is booted up and running. I tried adding ifconfig_net1/2 lines to rc.conf and it didn't work. ifconfig_net1=inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 255.0.0.0 Terry Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? TIA, Terry Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message I had the same problem with ATA drives on NetBSD. Maybe you could define the NICs statically in the kernel file... ( i don't remember if it is still possible fro PCI devices.) Hope it helps. Bye To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NIC numbering
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 01:30:09PM +0100, Andrea Franceschini wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:28:35AM -0600, Terry Todd wrote: When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? arp -s (or arp -S) may help. See man arp. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson The Netherlands [ This mail has been checked as virus-free ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
NIC numbering
When you have more than one of the same type of NIC card in one machine is there a way to insure that the NIC numbering remains attached to the same card / MAC address if more cards are added or they are moved around? TIA, Terry Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
