Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-10 Thread perryh
Robert Bonomi wrote: > ... it was the _initials_ of the name 'isual interace" > to ed(1). To ed(1), or to ex(1)? (ed(1) being the older -- and by a considerable margin the lighter, which is why we even now keep it in /bin where it does not depend on /usr being mounted.) I remember "horsing aro

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread John Bandur
>> From: Ricardo Cuevas Camarena >> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" >> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:59:04 -0500 >> Subject: RE: Newbie Needing Help >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [m

RE: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 9 18:16:11 2011 > From: Ricardo Cuevas Camarena > To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 17:59:04 -0500 > Subject: RE: Newbie Needing Help > > > > -Original Message- > >

RE: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Ricardo Cuevas Camarena
> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:21 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help > > On Mon, Ma

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 9 16:16:48 2011 > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:15:49 -0700 > From: Chip Camden > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help > > > --XRI2XbIfl/05pQwm > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 02:55:22PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > That joke is hilarious. Pedantically speaking, though, it has a small > problem: "vi" is pronounced like "vee eye", not like the word "vie". > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 09 May 2011: > > > > By the way, I remember a quote: > > > > > > Hello. My $NAME is ~inigo-montoya. You killed my process. Prepare > > to vi. --The Unix's Bride > > > > http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=1469:1&a

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:44:57PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > >> configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > >> of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. > > > > It's not just for softwar

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:44:57PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > >> configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > >> of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. > > > > It's not just for software

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Antonio Olivares
>> There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing >> configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits >> of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. > > It's not just for software development.  I use Vim for writing code, but > I also use it for writing i

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:04:36PM +0100, RW wrote: > > There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. It's not just for software development. I use Vim f

Re: Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Chris Rees
On 9 May 2011 19:05, Robert Huff wrote: > > John or Judy Hixson writes: > >>  Actually I'm using 7.4 because that's the latest version Lucas' >>  book covers and I learn better with a book in my hand. When I'm >>  ready to actually use FBSD, I'll get going with the latest >>  production release. >

Re: Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Robert Huff
John or Judy Hixson writes: > Actually I'm using 7.4 because that's the latest version Lucas' > book covers and I learn better with a book in my hand. When I'm > ready to actually use FBSD, I'll get going with the latest > production release. At the level you're (probably) operating,

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 9 May 2011 10:35:54 -0700, John or Judy Hixson wrote: > Actually I'm using 7.4 because that's the latest version Lucas' > book covers and I learn better with a book in my hand. When I'm > ready to actually use FBSD, I'll get going with the latest > production release. The sections about

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 9 May 2011 15:04:36 +0100, RW wrote: > There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. I'd like to mention the Midnight Commander. You can easily in

Re: Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread John or Judy Hixson
On Sun, 08 May 2011 19:49:55, Noel wrote: > On 5/8/2011 7:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: > > (Clip) > > >> I'm trying to learn some FreeBSD in anticipation of eventually admining a > >> FBSD server for my church office network. I've installed FreeBSD 7.4 on an > >> old PC and am > >> trying

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread RW
On Sun, 8 May 2011 22:13:16 -0400 Alejandro Imass wrote: > The first need to change is your Windoze vocabulary, so the "command > line" is called a "shell". Next you will need to eventually master a > text editor. The are literally hundreds of text-editor in the Unix > world but there are two pr

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-09 Thread Bill Tillman
From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 1:06:31 AM Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help On Sun, 8 May 2011 17:17:48 -0700 John or Judy Hixson wrote: > [...] > Another problem that's throwing me for a loop is that even

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Janos Dohanics
On Sun, 8 May 2011 17:17:48 -0700 John or Judy Hixson wrote: > [...] > Another problem that's throwing me for a loop is that even though I'm > logged in as root I'm getting a "permission denied" return when I > list a file (e.g. /etc/fstab) and press enter. When you enter a file name at the prom

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: > At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you > know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary > stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore >

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Jon Radel
On 5/8/11 8:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my chances.

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Noel
On 5/8/2011 7:17 PM, John or Judy Hixson wrote: At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my chances.

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of May 8, 2011 5:45:55 PM -0700, Chip Camden is alleged to have said: For viewing or editing a file, what you want is a text editor. I use vim, but it really isn't designed for beginners. Whatever editor you decide to use, I would advise reading up on it before jumping into text files.

Re: Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth John or Judy Hixson on Sunday, 08 May 2011: > At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you > know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary > stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore > taking my

Newbie Needing Help

2011-05-08 Thread John or Judy Hixson
At the risk of being told to get out of here and never come back (until you know enough to not need to come back), I need help on some very elementary stuff. I haven't found anywhere else to ask these questions and am therefore taking my chances. I'm trying to learn some FreeBSD in anticipation