Wojciech Puchar wrote:
providing data recovery services etc...
people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry
Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in
the ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way..
fortunately it's not
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Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:16:58AM -0800, [EMAIL
providing data recovery services etc...
people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry
Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in the
ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way..
fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not
Outlook has some good features:
most important of them:
1) inability to work right with imap, for eg. when deleting mail.
2) inability to properly handle THEIR OWN FORMAT mail (these huge files in
which it keeps mail) when there is a lot of mail on disk. after shorter or
longer time it will
how usable Outlook is with IMAP.
The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they
develop that mailserver.
As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap
(where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-).
use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at
least for me
Does dovecont support shared forders?
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On Tuesday February 27, 2007 at 08:56:19 (AM) Wojciech Puchar wrote:
fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like
Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place.
I think it could be more accurately stated that Intel, among others,
follow the money. I
fortunately it's not my pain :) and i'm not interested in groups like
Intel which naturally support windows and microsoft every place.
I think it could be more accurately stated that Intel, among others,
i think i was accurate in what i said :)
use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at least
for me
Does dovecont support shared forders?
what are shared folders? is it some standard or some M$-standard?
if some e-mails has to be shared, i simply create e-mail account for them,
and more that one person gets
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at
least for me
Does dovecont support shared forders?
what are shared folders? is it some standard or some M$-standard?
As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than
just an MS
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Joe Holden wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
use dovecot with Maildir. IMHO it's the best for mail service now. at
least for me
Does dovecont support shared forders?
what are shared folders? is it some standard or some M$-standard?
As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats
I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a good
comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via telnet?
Thanks,
Mikel
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On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Bill Campbell wrote:
I glad I didn't know that after dropping my last cell phone in
the crapper. The display was toast, but it was alive enough that
I could use iSync on my OS X box to grab all the phone info and
load it into my new phone. If I had known that
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Mikel King wrote:
I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a good
comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via telnet?
I would think you should be able to use this:
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3501.html
I use it when I need to get
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
how usable Outlook is with IMAP.
The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they
develop that mailserver.
As you say the U.W. would have a hard time using anything but uw-imap
(where do you thing the uw in uw-imap comes from :-).
I haven't looked at dovecot. Does it maintain a group of listeners,
similar to apache's, to handle incoming requests as courier-imap does?
you can set listening IP in config or *, not much more. if i do understand
your question. no such many options like apache.
So far we have had
As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just
an MS thing?
Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure
it does shared folders.
According to http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders it does.
nice. actually i never needed this so
As in shared namespaces? I'm sure thats an IMAP standard, rather than just
an MS thing?
Dovecot is brilliant also, especially with kqueue support now! Pretty sure
it does shared folders.
it works fast with IMAP with Maildir folders having tens of thousands of
e-mails. don't ask me why i
On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:31 AM, Mikel King wrote:
I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but does anyone have a
good comprehensive command list, for testing an IMAP server via
telnet?
The UW IMAP tool kit contains a number of scriptable command lines
tools for talking to imap servers.
How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook?
Or do I have to go plain text?
Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe
Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box.
*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something
On 2/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than
plain-text passwords can be made to work.
Uh, OK.
My answer is Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period.
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great with
what's the default FreeBSD IMAP server? i don't remember IMAP in base
FreeBSD distro?
thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have Secure
Authentication checked. Any ideas?
no idea. with
*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than
plain-text passwords can be made to work.
My answer is Don't use Outlook. For anything. Period.
as my answer. i have ca 500 users in my networks (mostly one),
anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. simply
don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap.
This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to
something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if the
subtleties are
In response to Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. simply
don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap.
I've got to say, I don't know where this is coming from.
We have a menagerie of IMAP clients here, and
Steve Bertrand wrote:
anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap.
simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap.
This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to
something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if
How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook?
Or do I have to go plain text?
Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe
Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box.
*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:16:58AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook?
Or do I have to go plain text?
Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe
Outlook supports CRAM-MD5 out of the box.
*Not* off-topic, the context being how
--On Monday, February 26, 2007 21:55:45 +1300 Juha Saarinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Not* off-topic, the context being how best to configure Outlook
for use with FreeBSD IMAP. One hopes something more secure than
plain-text passwords
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great
with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have
Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas?
one - what POP/IMAP server are you using?
two - some setups will require you to use the FULL email address
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great
with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have
Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas?
one - what POP/IMAP server are you using?
two - some setups will require you to use the FULL email
On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
as my answer. i have ca 500 users in my networks (mostly one),
outlook users always have problems, and i always answer that they
like problems and use outlook.
As an email administrator I have to concur. Unless people really are
using
On Feb 26, 2007, at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was able to find out that Outlook does not support Cram-md5.
That is
the issue.
The question of using CRAM-MD5 over TLS can lead to holy wars. It is
still what in recommended by the UW IMAP team, but it has the
disadvantage of
the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars etc),
getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security improvement and
reduces most of the email tech support calls.
i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access.
and i often help users
the issue.
The question of using CRAM-MD5 over TLS can lead to holy wars. It is still
the answer is that when using windows (biggest security hole), using best
ever secure connection (assuming such thing exist) is as good as not using any,
if company/office uses windows, right
Outlook has some good features, no doubt about that, but it's not a
great IMAP client. Outlook Express is better - doesn't use Personal
Storage Files that grow into insane sizes and suffer corruption, plus
allows you to relocate Special Folders to the IMAP server, like Sent
Messages and Drafts.
Garrett Cooper wrote:
Steve Bertrand wrote:
anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap.
simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap.
This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to
something they have likely never seen is
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007, Brian wrote:
Garrett Cooper wrote:
...
I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP
clients, just like MS and their IE browser _...
For example, the University of Washington has the following for their
email client page:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars
etc), getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security
improvement and reduces most of the email tech support calls.
i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access.
Juha Saarinen wrote:
Outlook has some good features, no doubt about that, but it's not a
great IMAP client. Outlook Express is better - doesn't use Personal
Storage Files that grow into insane sizes and suffer corruption, plus
allows you to relocate Special Folders to the IMAP server, like Sent
On 2/27/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I
think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda
syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at least a
good, popular one -- I know I'm
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007, Juha Saarinen wrote:
On 2/27/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I
think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda
syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great
with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have
Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas?
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On 2/26/07, Chris Maness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great
with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have
Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas?
Do you mean Secure Password Authentication or SPA? Don't
Juha Saarinen wrote:
On 2/26/07, Chris Maness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using the default FreeBSD IMAP server in FreeBSD. It works great
with thunderbird, but Outlook is not able to log in even though I have
Secure Authentication checked. Any ideas?
Do you mean Secure Password
On 2/26/07, Chris Maness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do I use the Cram-MD5 passwords with Outlook? Or do I have to go
plain text?
Off-topic for FreeBSD-Questions but I don't believe Outlook supports
CRAM-MD5 out of the box.
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