Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' === Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 === perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* THANK YOU! This is *exactly* what was holding me up from upgrading to Perl 5.10. Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Cheers, Matthew -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes: You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) It has occurred to me that teaching portupgrade to handle this would be a Simple Matter of Programming. Maybe even a strategy as simple as adding the variable to the make command lines automatically any time '-o' is specified. I wonder whether I could write that change without actually learning ruby... -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2010 15:22:05, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes: You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) It has occurred to me that teaching portupgrade to handle this would be a Simple Matter of Programming. Maybe even a strategy as simple as adding the variable to the make command lines automatically any time '-o' is specified. I wonder whether I could write that change without actually learning ruby... Probably it's easy enough to do that, but only at the cost of completely turning off the otherwise valuable conflicts checking mechanism. You'ld actually want to be informed of any conflicts /except/ the ones you always get in this sort of operation between the port being replaced and the port replacing it. The fundamental problem is that conflicts checking has been moved to way too early in the sequence -- it even blocks you from downloading the tarballs for any port that conflicts with what you have installed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuRJG0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxqrwCgiP3cq3jDDcJzRYIycSGD3FpL SIsAn1cWMmeFinU6C9UTWdlJWb0LcTxC =+Ede -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? Have a look at the 20100205 entry of ports/UPDATING. Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
Tim Daneliuk writes: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all for pointing to this. However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' === Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 === perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2010 17:05:08, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all for pointing to this. However, when I run: portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10' === Cleaning for perl-5.10.1 === perl-5.10.1 conflicts with installed package(s): perl-5.8.9_3 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 I supposed I could do a forced manual removal of perl, but isn't that what the '-f' arg in the portupgrade is supposed to do? You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuP6kAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzOFwCcDWkYxJrX+nPwWpzhrWGBuLTO MIIAn1wVGgCJc4nFdDdxmyXnuzbJ3kni =LfKt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On 3/4/2010 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Thanks for that. I'm not sure to whom I'd complain and/or if it would make any difference ;) -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System
On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:13:36 Matthew Seaman wrote: You got bitten by an ill-considered change introduced after the UPDATING instructions were written. To work around it, you need to set DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Has this absolutely ludicrous change not been reverted with extreme prejudice yet? And is there a PR where we can add interesting suggestions as to what miseries should be inflicted on the person responsible for it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
