Questions about groups.

2009-05-04 Thread Old Crankbuster

Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.

What does that one do?

I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of
course 'wheel'.

I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable
regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.

I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
initial install.

Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
to them?

Thanks,

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Re: Questions about groups.

2009-05-04 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/5/4 Old Crankbuster crankbus...@gmail.com:

 Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
 user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.

 What does that one do?

Members of operator can run /sbin/shutdown among
other things.
find / -group operator
can answer better than I ever could.


 I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of
 course 'wheel'.

 I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable
 regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
 network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.

 I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
 initial install.

 Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
 to them?


Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.

Best of luck.

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Re: Questions about groups.

2009-05-04 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 4 May 2009 21:18:34 +0700, Old Crankbuster crankbus...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
 Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
 user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.
 
 What does that one do?

The operator groupt allows its users to perform some operator tasks,
without needing them to be in the wheel group. It's like a limited
root permissions group. You'll find some programs that are +x for
this group (for example /sbin/shutdown).



 I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, [...]

I've often seen that FreeBSD defaults to user name = group name
for the adduser script, but I usually use the staff group, as you
do. Further fine grained parameters for user and group preferences
can be set in an environment where you have more than one user.



 [...] and of
 course 'wheel'.

Why of course? :-)



 I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, [...]

Typical single user setting.



 [...] and need to enable
 regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
 network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.

There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because
you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the dialer
group for ppp).



 I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
 initial install.

No, they seem to be Linuxisms. :-)



 Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
 to them?

No. What should happen then? How should that work? :-)

FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important
files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf.

The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows
you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are
those that are present from system startup on.

The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects
new devices while it's already running.

See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-)



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Re: Questions about groups.

2009-05-04 Thread Old Crankbuster
* ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com [2009-05-04 14:39:34 -0400]:

 
 Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
 writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.
 
 
Ah.  Thanks.

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Re: Questions about groups.

2009-05-04 Thread Old Crankbuster
* Polytropon free...@edvax.de [2009-05-04 21:02:29 +0200]:
 
  [...] and of
  course 'wheel'.
 
 Why of course? :-)
 

Umm, linuxism habit :-)


 There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because
 you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the dialer
 group for ppp).
 
 
 
  I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
  initial install.
 
 No, they seem to be Linuxisms. :-)
 

:-)
 
 FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important
 files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf.
 
 The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows
 you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are
 those that are present from system startup on.
 
 The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects
 new devices while it's already running.
 
 See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-)

Excellent.  Many thanks. :-)

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