Re: Questions on EXT3 vs standard BSD partitions

2006-07-01 Thread RW
On Friday 30 June 2006 17:44, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 I have to move between BSD and Linux on one system quite a bit, and I
 was wondering if there  were any reasons to avoid EXT3 on a filesystem
 (such as /dev/ad0s1), as opposed to using the more standard BSD setups
 (such as UFS on /dev/ad0s1a)? I'm thinking mostly in terms of
 reliability, but also in terms of flexibility and speed.

I haven't tried recently, but a year or so ago FreeBSD could not use ext3 as 
such. There is a port that adds ext3 fsck support for syncing the journal, 
FreeBSD can then mount it as ext2. The problem with that is that you then 
have a choice between reliability and decent write speed according to whether 
you mount it  synchronously or asynchronously.

I found that even having an  ext3 transfer partition  that's  mounted by 
default was a bit of a pain, because without a journal or softupdates, 
booting after a crash can take a long time. 
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Re: Questions on EXT3 vs standard BSD partitions

2006-07-01 Thread Jim Stapleton

Well, I'm not so worried about crashes, the only crashes I've had with
BSD are with power failures, and this is a notebook :-)

I was planning on having three slices on the drive, the first I
would blast from a linux or BSD image as needed, the second would be
ext2 or ext3 (or other?) and have /home, and the third would be my
/data mount point, where I'd keep a synced copy of my Windows My
Documents Folder (synced with my BSD desktop and my windows machine),
as well as choice music files (it's too small for all that FLAC).

Thanks
-Jim


On 7/1/06, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 30 June 2006 17:44, Jim Stapleton wrote:
 I have to move between BSD and Linux on one system quite a bit, and I
 was wondering if there  were any reasons to avoid EXT3 on a filesystem
 (such as /dev/ad0s1), as opposed to using the more standard BSD setups
 (such as UFS on /dev/ad0s1a)? I'm thinking mostly in terms of
 reliability, but also in terms of flexibility and speed.

I haven't tried recently, but a year or so ago FreeBSD could not use ext3 as
such. There is a port that adds ext3 fsck support for syncing the journal,
FreeBSD can then mount it as ext2. The problem with that is that you then
have a choice between reliability and decent write speed according to whether
you mount it  synchronously or asynchronously.

I found that even having an  ext3 transfer partition  that's  mounted by
default was a bit of a pain, because without a journal or softupdates,
booting after a crash can take a long time.
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Questions on EXT3 vs standard BSD partitions

2006-06-30 Thread Jim Stapleton

I have to move between BSD and Linux on one system quite a bit, and I
was wondering if there  were any reasons to avoid EXT3 on a filesystem
(such as /dev/ad0s1), as opposed to using the more standard BSD setups
(such as UFS on /dev/ad0s1a)? I'm thinking mostly in terms of
reliability, but also in terms of flexibility and speed.

Is there anything that should absolutely stay in UFS (such as /boot?)

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Questions on EXT3 vs standard BSD partitions

2006-06-30 Thread albi
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:44:21 -0400
Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have to move between BSD and Linux on one system quite a bit, and I
 was wondering if there  were any reasons to avoid EXT3 on a filesystem
 (such as /dev/ad0s1), as opposed to using the more standard BSD setups
 (such as UFS on /dev/ad0s1a)? I'm thinking mostly in terms of
 reliability, but also in terms of flexibility and speed.
 
 Is there anything that should absolutely stay in UFS (such as /boot?)

as a side-note :
last time i used an ext3 usb-disc on FreeBSD 5.4 there was still a
problem with automatically unmounting at a shutdown/reboot leaving the
ext3-filesystem dirty, and could not be mounted after the reboot
until a fsck was done, haven't tried this with 6.x yet

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