RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-12 Thread Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)
> > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd->[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris >Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:44 PM >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Mr Wat

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-12 Thread Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Watson, As you are listed as the leader of the FreeBSD foundation, and you seem to be the only one willing to admit that FreeBSD 5.3 is not yet up to the performance of 4.x, doesn't in concern you that: 1) Freebsd 4.x is not being supported as a production O/S, and t

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-12 Thread Tm4528
Mr Watson, As you are listed as the leader of the FreeBSD foundation, and you seem to be the only one willing to admit that FreeBSD 5.3 is not yet up to the performance of 4.x, doesn't in concern you that: 1) Freebsd 4.x is not being supported as a production O/S, and the "support" is ending

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-11 Thread Chris
I have noticed with all the work gone in to 5.x to optimise SMP performance in return uniprocessor performance has suffered considerably I think this is what the concerns are about? Will future releases such as 5.4 remedy this by fixing the drop in performance on uniprocessor machines? Chris On

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-10 Thread Dick Davies
* Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0154 09:54]: > Mark writes: > > M> Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have > M> to recompile your kernel? :) > > Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I > change something in the hardware, which I hard

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 9 January 2005 at 20:48:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your "point" doesn't address the lack of support for major chipsets, > so that users can utilitize the latest fast processors > available. The point is that those using 4.x because of its > performance advantages, cannot use i

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Tm4528
Your "point" doesn't address the lack of support for major chipsets, so that users can utilitize the latest fast processors available. The point is that those using 4.x because of its performance advantages, cannot use it with the latest processors because the MBs don't work in 4.x. THAT is the

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Tm4528
I find in amazing that a discussion of how FreeBSD 5.3 sucks compared to 4.x can segue into an discussion of FreeBSD vs Windows. I guess thats the politics of computing. And also a commentary on the mentality of the kind of person that uses FreeBSD. __

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Robert Watson writes: RW> The problems I have on the Windows XP platform appear to come from a RW> lack of robustness in the face of nasty application failure. A problem with the Windows environment as a whole is that applications tend to assume that they have the entire machine to themselves, an

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Mark wrote: > > FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. > > Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have to > recompile your kernel? :) The longest personal uptime I've had is just under two years, and that was for a UPS-backed natbox i

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Robert Watson writes: > > RW> All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every > RW> three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. > > I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will > run u

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mark writes: M> Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have M> to recompile your kernel? :) Usually once when I first install the OS, then never again (unless I change something in the hardware, which I hardly ever do). Windows often has to be rebooted just to install a new

RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 1:09 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance > > > Robert Watson writes: >

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Mark
> FreeBSD will run for years without a boot in many cases. Ah, this point fascinates me. Running for years? Do you ever have to recompile your kernel? :) Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freeb

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-09 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Robert Watson writes: RW> All I know is that the XP bits don't crash every week, they crash every RW> three weeks. :-) My NT4 box crashed almost continuously. I have three machines, running FreeBSD, NT, and XP. All of them will run until I boot them. They don't crash, or at least I can't reme

RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Entertainingly, at the company I work at, we only recently moved from > > Windows NT 4 to Windows XP, despite the dramatic improvements in Windows > > between those systems... > > dramatic improvements in XP over NT4? Robert, are you ill? ;-) >

RE: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance >

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 1/6/05 4:51:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > 4.10 *is* supported, and 5.3 works "as advertised" - what the hell is your > > *problem* exactly??? > Its been well documented that 5.3 does NOT work as advert

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-06 Thread Tm4528
>The moment you start paying for development and support I'll agree with >you. Getting an incompetent like you to agree with me is so far from important that I can't help but smile about the thought of it ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-06 Thread M
On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5.3 is not ready for production. 4.10 should be fully supported until it is. TM The moment you start paying for development and support I'll agree with you. When I need a particularly low per packet cost such as a firewall I'll throw down so

Re: Freebsd 5.3 Performance

2005-01-06 Thread Tom Vilot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << snippage >> ***yaaawn*** Please don't feed the trolls. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROT