Re: Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?

2008-03-17 Thread Brad Pitney
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Robert Chalmers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've read the spots off everything I can find about getting X going, and I
  have it all up and running sort of.

  But only sort of.



  I have X-Win32 trialling on a laptop, and want to be able to connect to the
  Xserver - but I just can't seem to do it.



  To give you a run down.



  I have X working.

  I have KDE working.

  I have the /etc/ttys entry set to:

  ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm  on  secure

  ..  (I note that kdm is much prettier, and appears to work Just as well)



  I have the entry in xdm-config commented out.

  ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0



  /root/.xinitrc contains exec startkde



  Ok.

  Using 'xdm' , booting brings up an oversize font LOGIN -PASSWORD display.
  Very ugly. (kdm looks nicer, but I'm following the manual)


xdm can look nice.



  Neither xdm or kdm, let me log in as root.

  I have to go Ctl+alt+F1 to get to the good old terminal window.



  Now, the main problem is .. Which is a real pain, as I do need to connect to
  this thing remotely.

  I can't connect from the remote laptop's X-Win32 program xterm emulator
  program.



  Has anyone managed to get any remote, xterm emulators going? And how so?


you know, I'd recommend X over ssh, although I used Xming, there 's a
package with it bundled with putty

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming

even comes with pretty good documentation



  Thanks if you can help - I'm almost there.

  Rob





















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 Brad
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Re: Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?

2008-03-17 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Brad Pitney wrote:

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Robert Chalmers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I've read the spots off everything I can find about getting X going, and I
 have it all up and running sort of.

 But only sort of.



 I have X-Win32 trialling on a laptop, and want to be able to connect to the
 Xserver - but I just can't seem to do it.



 To give you a run down.



 I have X working.

 I have KDE working.

 I have the /etc/ttys entry set to:

 ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm  on  secure

 ..  (I note that kdm is much prettier, and appears to work Just as well)



 I have the entry in xdm-config commented out.

 ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0



 /root/.xinitrc contains exec startkde



 Ok.

 Using 'xdm' , booting brings up an oversize font LOGIN -PASSWORD display.
 Very ugly. (kdm looks nicer, but I'm following the manual)




xdm can look nice.

  

 Neither xdm or kdm, let me log in as root.

 I have to go Ctl+alt+F1 to get to the good old terminal window.



 Now, the main problem is .. Which is a real pain, as I do need to connect to
 this thing remotely.

 I can't connect from the remote laptop's X-Win32 program xterm emulator
 program.



 Has anyone managed to get any remote, xterm emulators going? And how so?




you know, I'd recommend X over ssh, although I used Xming, there 's a
package with it bundled with putty

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming

even comes with pretty good documentation

  
I am not sure if I understand original question. Do you want to have GUI 
access to your remote machine?



1. If you are in the LAN zone you can run X-server on your Windows 
machine (obviously Cygwin comes to mind

and XOrg for it as well as other GNU tools) and run
x-clients (applications on your remote box) via let say tftp (Trivial 
File Transfer Protocol) or much slower NFS.  Read  man  pages  for XOrg 
and tftp how to do that.


2. If you want to connect remotely on the insecure network you basically 
have two options


a. ssh -Y (edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf file) since by default X log in is 
disabled. You have to have quite good machine to do this because of 
cryptography used by ssh and good internet connection. You again need to 
have OpenSSH on your

Windows machine so Cygwin is must.

b. You can run VNC server on your FreeBSD box and run VNC client on your 
Windows machine.
ThightVNC comes to mind. I prefer SSVNC client for the client side 
because of cryptography but I am not sure if it
available for Windows. Any how you can use TightVNC which does exits for 
Windows.


Best,
Predrag




 Thanks if you can help - I'm almost there.

 Rob





















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RE: Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?

2008-03-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag
 Punosevac
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:46 PM
 To: Brad Pitney
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?
 
 
 Brad Pitney wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Robert Chalmers
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've read the spots off everything I can find about getting X 
 going, and I
   have it all up and running sort of.
 
   But only sort of.
 
 
 
   I have X-Win32 trialling on a laptop, and want to be able to 
 connect to the
   Xserver - but I just can't seem to do it.
 
 
 
   To give you a run down.
 
 
 
   I have X working.
 
   I have KDE working.
 
   I have the /etc/ttys entry set to:
 
   ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm  on  secure
 
   ..  (I note that kdm is much prettier, and appears to work 
 Just as well)
 
 
 
   I have the entry in xdm-config commented out.
 
   ! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0
 
 
 
   /root/.xinitrc contains exec startkde
 
 
 
   Ok.
 
   Using 'xdm' , booting brings up an oversize font LOGIN 
 -PASSWORD display.
   Very ugly. (kdm looks nicer, but I'm following the manual)
 
  
 
  xdm can look nice.
 

   Neither xdm or kdm, let me log in as root.
 
   I have to go Ctl+alt+F1 to get to the good old terminal window.
 
 
 
   Now, the main problem is .. Which is a real pain, as I do 
 need to connect to
   this thing remotely.
 
   I can't connect from the remote laptop's X-Win32 program 
 xterm emulator
   program.
 
 
 
   Has anyone managed to get any remote, xterm emulators going? 
 And how so?
 
  
 
  you know, I'd recommend X over ssh, although I used Xming, there 's a
  package with it bundled with putty
 
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming
 
  even comes with pretty good documentation
 

 I am not sure if I understand original question. Do you want to have GUI 
 access to your remote machine?
 
 
 1. If you are in the LAN zone you can run X-server on your Windows 
 machine (obviously Cygwin comes to mind
 and XOrg for it as well as other GNU tools) and run
 x-clients (applications on your remote box) via let say tftp (Trivial 
 File Transfer Protocol) or much slower NFS.  Read  man  pages  for XOrg 
 and tftp how to do that.
 
 2. If you want to connect remotely on the insecure network you basically 
 have two options
 
 a. ssh -Y (edit /etc/ssh/sshd.conf file) since by default X log in is 
 disabled. You have to have quite good machine to do this because of 
 cryptography used by ssh and good internet connection. You again need to 
 have OpenSSH on your
 Windows machine so Cygwin is must.
 
 b. You can run VNC server on your FreeBSD box and run VNC client on your 
 Windows machine.
 ThightVNC comes to mind. I prefer SSVNC client for the client side 
 because of cryptography but I am not sure if it
 available for Windows. Any how you can use TightVNC which does exits for 
 Windows.

c.  You can run xrdp on the FreeBSD system, and connect to it from
Microsoft Remote Desktop.  xrdp basically allows you to run X windows
programs on the server and it sends the screen output to the Remote
Desktop client.

Ted

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