Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-15 Thread Jerry Bell
Path MTU problem? That would be my vote also. Ted I've done some more troubleshooting and some strange things have appeared. First, the colo says there is NO proxy, and NO firewall in front of this server. I captured a misfire on both the server and on my freebsd gateway. The

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-15 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jerry Bell wrote: [ ... ] I've done some more troubleshooting and some strange things have appeared. First, the colo says there is NO proxy, and NO firewall in front of this server. That's believable too, perhaps you simply have a NIC which is failing or is screwing up the packet checksums in

RE: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Swiger Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM To: Jerry Bell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread Jerry Bell
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Swiger Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM To: Jerry Bell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get

RE: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-14 Thread fbsd_user
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Swiger Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:41 AM To: Jerry Bell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with strange web server problem On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
I think Ive seen this before too... Is it possible that FreeBSD spins down the hard drive after inactivity, and the server doesn't always spin up the HD with a network request like this? On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
It's certainly possible. This is a Dell PE 750, and I didn't do anything in bios or in FreeBSD to enable that, so I'm thinking it might not be that, but I'll investigate it. Thanks! Jerry I think Ive seen this before too... Is it possible that FreeBSD spins down the hard drive after

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Ken Stevenson
Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get a server not found page. On hitting refresh, they get the page - no problems. If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem. The problem appears to be something in the initial communication

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
So ACPI is disabled? On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's certainly possible. This is a Dell PE 750, and I didn't do anything in bios or in FreeBSD to enable that, so I'm thinking it might not be that, but I'll investigate it. Thanks! Jerry I think Ive seen this before

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Charles Swiger
On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get a server not found page. On hitting refresh, they get the page - no problems. If I wait a while and try again, I get the same problem. Path MTU problem? The problem

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com. I will gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and send it out. Thanks! On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web site, they get a server

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
So ACPI is disabled? I'm assuming it's enabled. Can that be a problem? Aug 29 12:04:46 www syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. Aug 29 12:04:46 www kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989,

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
I'm hardly on expert on these sorts of things, but I *believe* that ACPI is responsible for power management stuff, including possibly spinning down your hard drive after inactivity. Try restarting with ACPI enabled (which you can do on your boot menu), or disable ACPI within your BIOS for

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
I will give that a try. Thank you for your help! Jerry I'm hardly on expert on these sorts of things, but I *believe* that ACPI is responsible for power management stuff, including possibly spinning down your hard drive after inactivity. Try restarting with ACPI enabled (which you can do on

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joe Auty
Some software (such as VMWare) will only work with ACPI disabled anyway. Even in our Mac labs here, we disable all Energy Saver settings - it just isn't worth the hassle, especially when there isn't much to gain on a Desktop machine, IMHO. On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Jerry Bell wrote:

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Charles Swiger
On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Jerry Bell wrote: I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com. I will gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and send it out. Well, I can confirm the behavior you've described. It looks somewhat like a stateful

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Gerard Seibert
Jerry Bell wrote: I didn't want to spam the link out, but it's www.musiclodge.com. I will gather the capture data from working and non working sessions and send it out. Thanks! On Feb 13, 2006, at 7:58 AM, Jerry Bell wrote: It's hit or miss, but the first time someone visits the web

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
Charles - thank you for your excellent investigation! I'm pretty sure that my colo provider isn't running a firewall (I've asked them not to, anyhow). I am running IPFW on that box, with the standard allow tcp from any to any established followed by the allow tcp any to my_ip 80 setup.

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Jerry Bell
Looks like it's still an issue, so I'd say the firewall issue is still in play. If there is not a firewall/proxy in place, are there any known issues with IPFW (or anything else with FBSD) that could cause this behavior? Jerry Bell wrote: Charles - thank you for your excellent investigation!

Re: Help with strange web server problem

2006-02-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
Jerry Bell wrote: Looks like it's still an issue, so I'd say the firewall issue is still in play. If there is not a firewall/proxy in place, are there any known issues with IPFW (or anything else with FBSD) that could cause this behavior? Hi Jerry - hard to tell without seeing your firewall