Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-08 Thread perryh
Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: In my read-only CD-ROM boot case, /var is created as a MFS device automatically and populated, but a basic directory layout only is used. Nothing from the CD-ROM /var is copied into the MFS /var that is created. I cannot figure out how BSD can do

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-08 Thread Peter Steele
You might be able to reduce the iso size some by making a tarball of /var (using tar -y or tar -z) instead of keeping /var2 as a tree. Granted you would then need to have tar(1) in the iso, which may cancel out much of the savings if you would not otherwise have needed it. Actually, /var is

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 00:28:40 -0500 Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to this? Can I get /var to be populated with the full

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Steele
Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time, you'll need to set that up to happen on every reboot. Obviously I can do that. What I was really

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 12:09:56, Peter Steele wrote: Can you write a few shell scripts? You'ld need to create a tarball of the /var contents you need on the box, and explode it onto /var at boot time -- if you're using auto-var on MFS all the time,

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread David Allen
On 4/6/10, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 07/04/2010 06:28:40, Peter Steele wrote: I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks like what the auto-var process does is a construct basic directory structure but no data. Is there a solution to

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Steele
I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure that's correct. If the OP wants his own /var, then diskless(8) describes how /var can be automagically populated (see also /etc/rc.initdiskless). The nanobsd.sh script (designed with flash drives in mind) uses this method. I looked into

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/6/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this directory. I can get around this but I wonder what else might not be included? I found

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Steele
Not that I know of, unless you use the advantages of mfs then. Full circle, bud. Now you're asking for necessities of the mfs or mfsroot systems. I don't want to go there, and don't need to. I came up with a simple way to populate /var from the original contents so I'm happy. The CD boots,

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Steele
If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/6/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there.

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Steele
What incidentally does /var get populated with? Our image has a custom directory under /var but this did not show up in the MFS versions of this directory. I can get around this but I wonder what else might not be included? I found something else that's missing--/var/db/pkg is empty. It looks

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 05/04/2010 18:03, Peter Steele wrote: We have a USB boot stick based cloning process that we're considering porting to a DVD based media. I'm not sure though that it's possible due to the restrictions I've seen in the mfsroot environment we'd have to use. For example, in our USB disk

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Peter Steele
It sounds like http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ would be helpful to you. (I havent used it yet due to lack of time but it looks good.) Hmmm, that just might do the trick. I'll check it out, thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/5/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: We have a USB boot stick based cloning process that we're considering porting to a DVD based media. I'm not sure though that it's possible due to the restrictions I've seen in the mfsroot environment we'd have to use. For example, in our USB

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Peter Steele
But ... why are you constricting yourself to use mfs_root? I have many times ran FreeBSD completely from CDrom, which will give you all 700 (or a DVD, 4.3G) usable space. I'd be happy to help, if you have questions. but please direct the questions to the mailing list. The reason I was

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/5/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: But ... why are you constricting yourself to use mfs_root? I have many times ran FreeBSD completely from CDrom, which will give you all 700 (or a DVD, 4.3G) usable space. I'd be happy to help, if you have questions. but please direct the

RE: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Peter Steele
If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there. D'oh! Man, wish I had known that. I just tried it and

Re: How customized can an mfsroot be?

2010-04-05 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/5/10, Peter Steele pste...@maxiscale.com wrote: If FreeBSD cannot write to /tmp or /var on boot, it automatically creates a MFS filesystems for those mountpoints and mounts them during boot. You don't need to do anything. It works as the same readonly compactflash environments out there.