Re: I quit

2005-01-12 Thread Duo
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, william gatlin wrote: My opinion is that x.org isn't integrated quite well enough yet for prime time. My BSD books don't have the new commands and other information to be of any use and the Man pages that downloaded were of no help either. So, use XFree. ports is still loaded

RE: I quit

2005-01-11 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane Ambler > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:40 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing Lists; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: I quit > > > Out of interest - it was microsoft that s

Re: I quit

2005-01-11 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:11:38 -0500 Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >[ ... ] >> That may be true. I don't really know because I haven't looked at >> Darwin source. However, e

Re: I quit

2005-01-10 Thread Chuck Swiger
Scott Bennett wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ... ] That may be true. I don't really know because I haven't looked at Darwin source. However, essentially everything in NextStep above the kernel that was not part of the OOPS was taken dir

Re: I quit

2005-01-10 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Kevin Kinsey wrote: Just "bin" works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do that. <*slight* exaggeration>Why M$ assumes the only thing you'll ever want to d/l via ftp is ASCII text is beyond me It's not the worst thing I've seen - when you want to transfer a text file from OS390/zOS, you are

Re: I quit

2005-01-10 Thread Shane Ambler
On 10/1/05 7:03 PM, "Scott Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But even so, much of FreeBSD came directly from 4.[34]BSD anyway. I've > glanced at a few of the header files in Mac OSX libraries, and they are > still chock full of labels beginning with "NS" or "NX". :-) > All the NS.. object na

Re: I quit

2005-01-10 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:20:29 -0500 Bob Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:17:36PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of t

Re: I quit

2005-01-10 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0600 David Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Jan 9, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the >> >

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 01:42 pm, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Malcolm Kay wrote: > >On a MS system you'll probably need to set the file mode to prevent > >\n being translated to \r\n. It can be quite frustarating to realise > >this only after hours of download :- > > > >ftp> binary > > > > > >Malcolm > > Jus

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Malcolm Kay wrote: On a MS system you'll probably need to set the file mode to prevent \n being translated to \r\n. It can be quite frustarating to realise this only after hours of download :- ftp> binary Malcolm Just "bin" works. But you'll _absolutely_ want to do that. <*slight* exaggera

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Kevin Kinsey
william gatlin wrote: So for now I'm going to try to load Slackware and hope that maybe in a year BSD will be easier to wade through. I have to admit a bit of sorrow in having to do this as I wanted them both on the same machine. Dual-booting is rather an advanced topic. So are several othe

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 09 January 2005 03:45 am, Erik Norgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > william gatlin wrote: > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insist

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:00 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Sunday 09 January 2005 05:28 am, Giorgos Keramidas > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > > trying to

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 09 January 2005 12:53 am, "william gatlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 09 January 2005 05:28 am, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > > image,

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Bob Hall
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:17:36PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the > > Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the la

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread David Kelly
On Jan 9, 2005, at 6:17 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the last few weeks, still is--bas

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:55 -0600 Andrew L. Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mac OSX is based upon FreeBSD and may have native versions of the Mac OSX was--and unless something has changed drastically in the last few weeks, still is--based upon NextStep, another proprietary UNIX that

RE: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew L. Gould > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:55 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: I quit > > > On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:53 am, william gatlin

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Sunday 09 January 2005 02:53 am, william gatlin wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO > image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying > the file, I loaded it

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread unixadmin99
The FreeBSD Handbook is priceless. A lot of effort is put into making it as complete and accurate as possible. The next time you decide to install FreeBSD as a newuser, i suggest you read through the handbook at least once. Remember: The FreeBSD Community and the Handbook Team, to be specific, hav

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-09 16:53, william gatlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and > trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO image, > windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the > file, I loaded it and g

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Don Tyson
> I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to > get it to work. After figuring out There are a couple of other possibilities, too. One is to try 4.10, which still has the old X11 configuration tools, and does not load Xorg. The other is xandros linux --- www.x

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread James Jhai
On Sunday 09 January 2005 01:53 am, william gatlin wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to > get it to work. After figuring out > how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on > modifying the file, I loa

RE: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Mark
> The ISO images that you download over the Internet are for techies > who WANT to learn how the system really works "underneith". They > LIKE IT when things break down because how do you learn anything > if you don't have to fix a few problems? I can definitely see this. I run five or six small

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Erik Norgaard
william gatlin wrote: I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 and trying to get it to work. After figuring out how to get an ISO image, windows couldn't do it because netscape insisted on modifying the file, I loaded it and got a lot of error code 1 messages that I never

RE: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of william gatlin > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: I quit > > > Hello, > > I have spent at least two weeks of my free time downloading 5.3 > and trying to ge

Re: I quit

2005-01-09 Thread Jon Drews
Hi Bill: Sorry you had such a miserable time with this. You may want to get either of these two books, as helps in installing and configuring FreeBSD. FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer, by Annelise Anderson Absolute BSD: The Ultimate Guide to FreeBSD by Michael