RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

This is not funny at all since Windows viruses often use these reserved
DOS devices to hide themselves, see the following:

http://www.seifried.org/security/advisories/kssa-010.html

Ted

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An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
con.
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
this happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-03 Thread Jason Stewart
On 03/11/05 05:31 +0200, Aggelos wrote:
 An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
 con.
 This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
 At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
 this happened!
 Try it out yourself...

Not funny. Just as it is not funny that you cannot name a variable int
int in a C program. Con is a reserved name for the console device in
dos. There is no folder namespace for device files in dos like there
is in *nix with the dev directory. 

Design oversight? Probably. Funny?  No, and I knew about this 10 years
ago so it's not true that someone just discovered it.

Jason
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-03 Thread RW
On Thursday 03 November 2005 04:27, Moffatt, Chris wrote:
 It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like prn) 

Now that is funny - prn is where the texting generation will expect to store 
their porn.
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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, November 02, 2005 21:17:27 -0700 Moffatt, Chris 
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 It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like prn)  I think it stands
for console

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7,
COM8, COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9

I have seen folders with those names.  The taggers like to use them when 
they break in to Windoze boxes, because they're a PITA to get rid of, 
unless you know how.


It's just not possible to create folders with those names the normal way. 
*Anything* is possible on *any* OS if you know what you're doing and how to 
get around the restrictions that are in place.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Antony Mawer

On 3/11/2005 2:31 PM, Aggelos wrote:

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
con.
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
this happened!


I find it hard no one at Microsoft could answer why that was the case. 
That harks back to the DOS days, where con used to refer to the the 
console (ala STDIN). You'd be able to create a text file containing what 
you typed by doing:


copy con file.txt

This still works today on Windows XP.

And yes, this was completely and utterly offtopic.

-Antony

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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Moffatt, Chris
 It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like prn)  I think it stands for
console

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8,
COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9



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An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
con.
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why this
happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/3/05, Aggelos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
 con.
 This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
 At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
 this happened!
 Try it out yourself...
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con is the name of a device in windoze. Is this
really funny? There are lots of other legacy names,
like prn, lpt, etc... Let's laugh at each and every
one of them.
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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Haulmark, Chris
 
 An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
 con.
 This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
 At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
 this happened!
 Try it out yourself...

It's confirmed that it is correct on Windows XP with SP2 installed.

Amazing.

Chris

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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Haulmark, Chris

 
  An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named
as
  con.
  This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
  At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer
why
  this happened!
  Try it out yourself...
 
 It's confirmed that it is correct on Windows XP with SP2 installed.
 
 Amazing.
 
 Chris

Just found a reference link to this:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e
n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u
s/prkc_fil_rbrx.asp

Chris

 
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

2005-11-02 Thread Doug Hardie
Not surprising.  Gates and Microsoft didn't develop DOS.  They bought  
it.



On Nov 2, 2005, at 20:27, Moffatt, Chris wrote:

It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like prn)  I think it  
stands for

console

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6,  
COM7, COM8,

COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9



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Subject: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
con.
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer  
why this

happened!
Try it out yourself...
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