Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-11 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10 Jan 2006, at 05:49, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: So the entire discussion is academic I think. But, that doesen't make it a boring discussion. Probably way beyond a lot of the posters here, though. Given the treatment you seem to be getting, I'd agree. Ceri PGP.sig Description: This

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread jdow
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spam I sort through. With SpamAssassin scoring it's easy to find the low scores and concentrate on them. But somebody arrogant enough to spam me with a challenge for a message to a mailing list ends up

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jdow Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why Unfortunately, jdow, since your using this setup, the spammer has

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread Danial Thom
--- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jdow Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:12 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread jdow
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, jdow, since your using this setup, the spammer has already successfully delivered the mail to you. The fact that you delete the spam before reading makes no difference - the spammer

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread jdow
From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, jdow, since your using this setup, the spammer has already successfully delivered the mail to you. The fact that you delete the spam before

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] YIKES. This is what

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jdow Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why Unfortunately in the spam game, it only matters if the spammer thinks

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ceri Davies Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:44 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Slade Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why On 8 Jan 2006, at 05:03, Ted Mittelstaedt

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ceri Davies
- need help to diagnose why Normally if a domain has a single mailserver processing incoming mail, there's a single MX record pointing to a single machine. But in many cases it's desirable to relay mail through a prefilter system before it gets to the actual mailserver. In those cases

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread David Banning
Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda and such services anger some people. I also find other people who ask me how they can get such a service, only because spam is so difficult to block. I guess it depends on how important email is to you. I would never ask a question on this board and

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread jdow
From: David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda and such services anger some people. I also find other people who ask me how they can get such a service, only because spam is so difficult to block. I guess it depends on how important email is to you. I would

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Danial Thom
--- jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda and such services anger some people. I also find other people who ask me how they can get such a service, only because spam is so difficult to block. I guess it

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread jdow
From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda and such services anger some people. I also find other people who ask me how they can get such a service, only because spam is so

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: Ceri Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 3:17 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Slade Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why The damage done to the Internet by just a single host that might

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Banning Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:21 AM To: Robert Slade Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why Thanks for the response, Robert. I know tmda

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:14 AM To: jdow; David Banning Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why I'm of the opposite thinking. I'd rather

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jdow Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Banning Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why Spam I sort through

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-08 Thread Ceri Davies
On 8 Jan 2006, at 05:03, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Slade Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:24 PM To: David Banning Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-07 Thread Danial Thom
--- Robert Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 05:45, David Banning wrote: My server just was listed with Spamcop. Before I exercise my -one time- option to de-list it I need to verify that indeed my server is not sending spam. I have 3 win boxes routing through my

RE: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Slade Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:24 PM To: David Banning Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why There is your problem TMDA is most likely the cause

Re: Spamcop listed - need help to diagnose why

2006-01-06 Thread Robert Slade
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 05:45, David Banning wrote: My server just was listed with Spamcop. Before I exercise my -one time- option to de-list it I need to verify that indeed my server is not sending spam. I have 3 win boxes routing through my FreeBSD box. Also there are a few windows