Re: about unatteneded installation
Hi Devin, On 12/20/12 1:10 PM, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: For now, people that prefer sysinstall can use my FreeBSD Druid pre-built install media: For 9.0: http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/FreeBSD-9.0_Druid-1.0b60.iso/download For 8.3: http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/FreeBSD-8.3_Druid-1.0b60.iso/download As for 10.0 (when it comes out), expect bsdinstall to surpass sysinstall (in many many great ways) in every way (unlike the current status in 9.x). I had begun evaluating FreeBSD Druid and DruidBSD, but was sidetracked with a different project. I'm hoping to return to this in the coming weeks. Having said that, I am wondering what disk partition utilities FreeBSD Druid/DruidBSD use when installing 9.x. Is it using fdisk/bsdlabel or gpart? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: about unatteneded installation
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Rick Miller wrote:
Hi Devin,
On 12/20/12 1:10 PM, Devin Teske devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote:
For now, people that prefer sysinstall can use my FreeBSD Druid pre-built
install media:
For 9.0:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/FreeBSD-9.0_Druid-1.0b60.iso/download
For 8.3:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/FreeBSD-8.3_Druid-1.0b60.iso/download
As for 10.0 (when it comes out), expect bsdinstall to surpass sysinstall
(in many many great ways) in every way (unlike the current status in 9.x).
I had begun evaluating FreeBSD Druid and DruidBSD, but was sidetracked
with a different project. I'm hoping to return to this in the coming
weeks. Having said that, I am wondering what disk partition utilities
FreeBSD Druid/DruidBSD use when installing 9.x. Is it using
fdisk/bsdlabel or gpart?
Hi Rick,
No worries on time lapse. In fact, I had been needing to get back to you on
assuaging those 4 failed patch hunks on your sysinstall work.
FreeBSD Druid (both 8.x and 9.x) use sysinstall for disk partitioning. What
does sysinstall use, you say? Glad you asked. sysinstall(8) uses a combination
of:
+ libdisk ( see, for example, Set_Boot_Mgr(3) within case 'W' of switch
(toupper(key)) in function diskPartition() of file
stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/disks.c lines 630-693)
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/disks.c?revision=225736view=markup
and ...
+ phk code (see, for example, slice_wizard() function in file
stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/wizard.c lines 65-201, in-use for case '|' of
the same switch above, same function, lines 695-707 of
stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/disks.c)
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/disks.c?revision=225736view=markup
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/stable/9/usr.sbin/sysinstall/wizard.c?revision=225736view=markup
But wait, there's more...
The FreeBSD 9 version of my FreeBSD Druid has a patch to perform (only when
doing automated/scripted installs):
gpart -F destroy ${dest_disk}
The reason for this is that if you, say for example, were to try the bsdinstall
based media and then want to try sysinstall based media, you're actually
prevented from re-formatting that disk into a usable MBR layout until you
destroy the GPT backup label stored at the end of the disk.
So the FreeBSD Druid for 9.x is basically the same as for 8.x with an
additional twist, it has gpart in the mfsroot so that it can do a destroy on
the GPT backup data before formatting the disk in automated installations (this
destroy command is not done for non-scripted installs).
You can see the code here:
http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/freebsd/menu/etc/all_install?r1=1.2r2=1.3
http://druidbsd.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/druidbsd/druidbsd/druid/src/freebsd/menu/etc/all_install?revision=1.3view=markup
--
Devin
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Re: about unatteneded installation
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Rick Miller wrote: No worries on time lapse. In fact, I had been needing to get back to you on assuaging those 4 failed patch hunks on your sysinstall work. FreeBSD Druid (both 8.x and 9.x) use sysinstall for disk partitioning. What does sysinstall use, you say? Glad you asked. sysinstall(8) uses a combination of: I anticipated this. I am under the impression one cannot force proper slice alignment on 4K sector drives with sysinstall (see http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2011-01-01.freebsd-on-4k-sector-drives.html). Is it safe to assume that this also applies to 9.x when utilizing sysinstall based installer? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: about unatteneded installation
-Original Message- From: vrwmil...@gmail.com [mailto:vrwmil...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rick Miller Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:39 AM To: Teske, Devin Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: about unatteneded installation On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Rick Miller wrote: No worries on time lapse. In fact, I had been needing to get back to you on assuaging those 4 failed patch hunks on your sysinstall work. FreeBSD Druid (both 8.x and 9.x) use sysinstall for disk partitioning. What does sysinstall use, you say? Glad you asked. sysinstall(8) uses a combination of: I anticipated this. I am under the impression one cannot force proper slice alignment on 4K sector drives with sysinstall (see http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2011-01-01.freebsd-on-4k-sector-drives.html). Is it safe to assume that this also applies to 9.x when utilizing sysinstall based installer? As previously mentioned, the FreeBSD Druid for FreeBSD 9.x contains gpart in the mfsroot. To make this work under sysinstall, you'd essentially tell sysinstall to use what's already there (and by already there, I mean have a script pre-create the partition layout with gpart prior to installation). There are places (like the all_install script) in the FreeBSD Druid that would make this a simple proposition, but I'm afraid that the better solution (according to the article) is to use a true 4K-only drive (the article mentions that the problem only comes into play with drives that advertise both 512 and 4K sector sizes). -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: about unatteneded installation
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, dte...@freebsd.org wrote: -Original Message- From: vrwmil...@gmail.com [mailto:vrwmil...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rick Miller Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:39 AM To: Teske, Devin Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: about unatteneded installation On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Rick Miller wrote: No worries on time lapse. In fact, I had been needing to get back to you on assuaging those 4 failed patch hunks on your sysinstall work. FreeBSD Druid (both 8.x and 9.x) use sysinstall for disk partitioning. What does sysinstall use, you say? Glad you asked. sysinstall(8) uses a combination of: I anticipated this. I am under the impression one cannot force proper slice alignment on 4K sector drives with sysinstall (see http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2011-01-01.freebsd-on-4k-sector-drives.html). Is it safe to assume that this also applies to 9.x when utilizing sysinstall based installer? As previously mentioned, the FreeBSD Druid for FreeBSD 9.x contains gpart in the mfsroot. To make this work under sysinstall, you'd essentially tell sysinstall to use what's already there (and by already there, I mean have a script pre-create the partition layout with gpart prior to installation). Yes, but neither fdisk(8) nor gpart(8) can align slices to arbitrary (aligned) locations. They will always be aligned to CHS values, equivalent to using -a63 in gpart. gpart(8) can align FreeBSD partitions inside a slice, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
