Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
On getting vim text editor (vi improved) for FreeBSD, you can either pkg_add or use the ports system, where you build from source code with a convenient setup. You can check http://www.freebsd.org/ and check the documentation, including the handbook and ports system. I've heard of Cygwin but

Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Theodor-Iulian Ciobanu
-Original Message- From: Devin Teske [mailto:devin.te...@fisglobal.com] On Behalf Of dte...@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25 PM To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org

Re: text editor

2012-08-29 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ dte...@freebsd.org wrote on Tue 28.Aug'12 at 16:42:06 -0700 ] -Original Message- From: Robin, Michael [mailto:ro...@chapman.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:42 PM To: 'dte...@freebsd.org'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor What is VIM

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread dteske
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin, Michael Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:10 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: text editor Which text editor program will run 64-bit

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Robin, Michael
...@fisglobal.com] On Behalf Of dte...@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25 PM To: Robin, Michael; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:09:39 +, Robin, Michael wrote: Which text editor program will run 64-bit operating system with following features: * Support 100 percent of hot keys Depends also on the terminal emulator used and if it's configured properly. Editors like the one belonging to the

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:41:52 +, Robin, Michael wrote: What is VIM? VI = VI Improved, based on vi-like editor behaviour, which is often considered one of the MAIN editor environments among programmers. Where could it be downloaded? You don't manually download things on FreeBSD. You

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Erich Dollansky
@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robin, Michael Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:10 PM To: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: text editor Which text

Re: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread Jerry Dunham
On 28 Aug 2012 at 22:41, Robin, Michael wrote: What is VIM? Where could it be downloaded? What is CLI? I am looking for GUI/command prompt text editor for Windows 7/8. The notepad plus program lacks start/end block setting option even though it have a lot of hot keys. My top priority is

RE: text editor

2012-08-28 Thread dteske
-Original Message- From: Robin, Michael [mailto:ro...@chapman.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:42 PM To: 'dte...@freebsd.org'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: text editor What is VIM? A _much_ improved version of vi (vi is the ubiquitous UNIX text editor written

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread perryh
mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: Robert Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. Didn't Emacs start out as a reimplementation of TECO in Lisp?

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:04:06AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: mer...@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote: Robert Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. Didn't Emacs start

Strying off topic, but Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 31 May 2010 17:38, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I meant to reply to the list, as a response to this, but accidentally replied directly to Giorgos Keramidas. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:45:07PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 03 2010 11:11, Murray Taylor wrote: Hmm i remember a 'game' where you opened a file then predicted what would happen if you just typed your name at the command prompt... then of course you had to do it to see if your guess was right... ie in vi dwight would delete a word then

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Richard T C Farnes
To Matthias Apitz I read with interest your contribution and those of others in text editor usage. In this I do not have much to contribute as I am so far perfectly happy with vi. BUT I noticed your political comment at the end of your contribution. I find this out of place as this questions

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Fbsd1
Walt Pawley wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I'd suggest looking into aee. That has what I am looking and so simple. Thanks for your info. ___

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:04PM +0200, Richard T C Farnes wrote: To Matthias Apitz I read with interest your contribution and those of others in text editor usage. In this I do not have much to contribute as I am so far perfectly happy with vi. BUT I noticed your political comment at

Re: Strying off topic, but Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:14:19AM -0400, ill...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know much, but the source tarball is slightly over 7m. I suspect a lot of that is documentation. One thing Vim definitely has going for it is the breadth and depth of user documentation that comes with it. In any

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 10:49:04PM +0200, Richard T C Farnes wrote: To Matthias Apitz [ ...snip ...] Yours sincerely Richard Farnes I don't recall any netiquette rules about making your signature block on-topic. Aren't you getting a bit uptight?

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by pulling it out of the signature block where it belonged. Nicely put Chad. Thanks! ...here's an example...

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 20:40, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: ...here's an example... use vi(m). It solves ALL of the world's problems. I'm beginning to think nvi, in particular, might do so. For one thing, it has a friendlier license (since we're

Re: text editor and your postscript

2010-06-03 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 06:40:14PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:25:54PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.06.03 19:46, Chad Perrin wrote: If anything, it's *you* who took things into the realm of politics by pulling it out of the signature block where it

Re: text editor

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.06.03 18:35, Fbsd1 wrote: Walt Pawley wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I'd suggest looking into aee. That has what I am looking and so simple. Simple is in the eye of the beholder. Also,

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 05:23:55PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:08:42 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. . . . not counting this nifty editor I called pencil. -- Chad Perrin [

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the web was invented. Dept of (in)famous last words: There is no reason for anyone to have a computer in their home. -- Gordon Bell, founder of DEC No one will ever

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:20:07AM -0500, Adam Vande More typed: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . .

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, June 02, 2010 a las 01:26:44PM +0200, Ruben de Groot escribió: The phrase son of an edlin has happily been retired in my vocabulary for some time. If you're not aware of it, ed(1) is as capable or more of causing pain as edlin was and it's still in the FreeBSD base.

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 01:33:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: The ed(1) is *extremely* useful when it comes to editing text files on the fly in shell scripts (i.e. without user interaction). This is why I don't consider ed the kind of abomination that edlin was; it exists within a stronger

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jun 2 01:20:03 2010 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:20:07 -0500 From: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text editor On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Tue

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Jun 2 02:11:23 2010 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:06:31 -0700 From: per...@pluto.rain.com To: m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: text editor Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Young

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chip Camden
On Jun 02 2010 11:45, Robert Bonomi wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. . . .

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread John Levine
Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin Oh, you mean that editor I used on a PDP-6? Sigh. Yes. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

RE: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Murray Taylor
Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:31 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Re: text editor Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Robert == Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com writes: Robert Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:41:37PM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Robert == Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com writes: Robert Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. How did that

Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Chad == Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com writes: I wrote a screen-based editor in it, having heard of Emacs, wanting to do the same thing. Chad How did that work out -- and what happened to it? It was used by my group at Tektronix from 1981 to 1983... not sure what happened to it after that.

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/05/2010 21:31:15, Chad Perrin wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:48:22PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi is its support for multiple levels of undo. Have you ever tried u (undo command) followed by . (repeat last command)? ;-) -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi is its support for multiple levels of undo. Have you ever tried u (undo command) followed by .

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the web was invented. No -- those are the even better old days. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpsisp2Mnyyg.pgp

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 07:08:42 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:21:20PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 14:32:04 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: Unfortunately, the killer feature that keeps me with Vim instead of nvi is its support for multiple levels of

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Chip Camden
I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. On Jun 01 2010 07:09, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the web was invented. No -- those are the even

Re: text editor

2010-06-01 Thread Walt Pawley
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I'd suggest looking into aee. -- Walter M. Pawley w...@wump.org Wump Research Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:10:03AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and GNU Emacs have

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon May 31 00:10:28 2010 From: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:10:03 +0300 Subject: Re: text editor On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 5757731 1 Απρ 17:11 vim-lite-7.2.344.tbz Does Vim install more than the

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 5757731 1

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:48:22PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here:

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:36:53AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: I can't get at my FBSD box right now to check vim itself, but on another box, 'nvi' (which is described as a bug-for-bug compatible replacement for the original Fourth Berkeley Software Distribution (4BSD) vi, has an executable

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Chad Perrin
I meant to reply to the list, as a response to this, but accidentally replied directly to Giorgos Keramidas. On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:45:07PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:59:00 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Does Vim install more than the binary?

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Fbsd1
SNIP alot of text not related to original posted question. Can we get back on subject. I have worked many years with ispf so decided to check out THE I installed pkg_add -r the entering the on the command line produces something that is far removed from ispf/pdf. manpage and website

Re: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread doug
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: SNIP alot of text not related to original posted question. Can we get back on subject. I have worked many years with ispf so decided to check out THE I installed pkg_add -r the entering the on the command line produces something that is far removed from

RE: text editor

2010-05-31 Thread Murray Taylor
Subject: Re: text editor On Mon, 31 May 2010 11:36:53 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: Vim is much smaller than Emacs but it still a few MB's here: keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/packages/All$ ls -ld vim* -rw-r--r-- 1 root

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread perryh
Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. ... Is there any editors with a function like this? Either vi or emacs can do this general sort of thing. ___

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting and dd on the last line of the block and hit enter and the block of

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Fbsd1
Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting and dd on the last line of the block and hit enter

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:36:31 +0800, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. Put dd on the first line of sequence number you want to start deleting and dd on the last line of the block and hit enter and the block of

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Lars Eighner
On Sun, 30 May 2010, Fbsd1 wrote: Been using ee and been happy. Now I have need for an editor with block commands. I recommend joe which is one binary with several flavors including pico, emacs, and wordstar work-alikes as well as its own interface. The macro language is easy and powerful.

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and GNU Emacs have support for many features that ee(1) lacks. I'm not sure why you mentioned the size of Vim here as if it's a remarkably large piece of

Re: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:27 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If you don't mind the size of the respective packages, both VIM and GNU Emacs have support for many features that ee(1) lacks. I'm not sure why you

RE: text editor

2010-05-30 Thread Murray Taylor
yep ... its called vi place cursor at the line at hte top (or bottom) of the block press ma (put marker a on the line) move your cursor to the line at the other end (bottom ot top) of the block press d'a this will delete between the marked line and the cursor to move the block