Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Tom Trelvik
Gert Cuykens wrote:
can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?
	A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd 
like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and reattach 
to the screen session later to see how it went.

Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)
Tom
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Re: Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Brian John
 Gert Cuykens wrote:
  can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?

 A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that
you'd
 like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and reattach
 to the screen session later to see how it went.

 Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)

What exactly is a screen session?

/Brian

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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote:
 Gert Cuykens wrote:
  can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?

   A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd
 like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and
 reattach to the screen session later to see how it went.

   Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)

 Tom

Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this?

Thank you,

-Mike
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Jan Grant
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote:

 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote:
  Gert Cuykens wrote:
   can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?
 
  A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd
  like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and
  reattach to the screen session later to see how it went.
 
  Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)
 
  Tom
 
 Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this?

He's referring to the misc/screen port. The man page is pretty 
comprehensive. It basically gives you virtual terminal sessions that 
you can attach, detach and reattach a client to without disturbing the 
underlying session.

-- 
jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/
Tel +44(0)117 9287864 or +44 (0)117 9287088 http://ioctl.org/jan/
Random act of violence against bread: whole pint.
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Chris Hodgins
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:24 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote:
  Gert Cuykens wrote:
   can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?
 
A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that you'd
  like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session and
  reattach to the screen session later to see how it went.
 
Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)
 
  Tom
 
 Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do this?
 
 Thank you,
 
 -Mike

You might find this helpful.  Screen is very useful.

http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9142/sam0405f/

Chris
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 07:02 am, Chris Hodgins wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 06:45:24 -0800, Michael C. Shultz

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote:
   Gert Cuykens wrote:
can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading
?
  
 A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running
   that you'd like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen
   session and reattach to the screen session later to see how it
   went.
  
 Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)
  
   Tom
 
  Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do
  this?
 
  Thank you,
 
  -Mike

 You might find this helpful.  Screen is very useful.

 http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9142/sam0405f/

 Chris

Thanks. Just read over the site/bookmarked it, very good information!

-Mike
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-15 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 07:02 am, Jan Grant wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:17 am, Tom Trelvik wrote:
   Gert Cuykens wrote:
can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading
?
  
 A cleaner solution, regardless of whatever you're running that
   you'd like to ^c, is to just let it run inside a screen session
   and reattach to the screen session later to see how it went.
  
 Screen should be every sysadmin's best friend.  =)
  
   Tom
 
  Tom, mind providing a link that tells us non-sysadmins how to do
  this?

 He's referring to the misc/screen port. The man page is pretty
 comprehensive. It basically gives you virtual terminal sessions
 that you can attach, detach and reattach a client to without
 disturbing the underlying session.

Thanks Jan for the port name.   Chris Hodgins just provided a good link 
with information about screen, it is nice to know the portname as 
well. :)

-Mike
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-14 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:21:50 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 14 March 2005 04:06 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?
 
  portmanager -sl
 
  xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-fontserver
  COMMENT=X font server from X.Org
 
  xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-type1
  COMMENT=X.Org Type1 fonts
 
  xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 dir -=
  /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic COMMENT=X.Org
  Cyrillic bitmap fonts
 
  xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 dir -=
  /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-100dpi COMMENT=X.Org 100dpi
  bitmap fonts
 
  xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-75dpi
  COMMENT=X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
 
  xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 dir -=
  /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-miscbitmapsCOMMENT=X.Org
  miscellaneous bitmap fonts
 
  xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver
  COMMENT=X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
 
  xorg-printserver-6.7.0 dir -=
  /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-printserver COMMENT=X Print
  server from X.Org
 
  xorg-nestserver-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-nestserver
  COMMENT=Nesting X server from X.Org
 
  xorg-server-6.7.0_9 dir -= /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server
  COMMENT=X.Org X server and related programs
 
  xorg-manpages-6.7.0 dir -= /usr/ports/x11/xorg-manpages
  COMMENT=X.Org library manual pages
 
  xorg-clients-6.7.0_5 dir -= /usr/ports/x11/xorg-clients
  COMMENT=X client programs and related files from X.Org
 
 Gert, nothing you have installed has those ports listed as run
 dependencies so technically you may delete them all.  But to be safe,
 do run portmanager -u right afterwards and see if any other ports cause
 them to be pulled back in. Likely some of the fonts and xorg-clients
 will be pulled back in by another port.
 
 -Mike
 

ok i deleted them i now have a new one i like to delete :)


Ports with no ports depending on them AKA leaf ports.
These ports may be safely deinstalled because no other ports
list these as dependencies.

xorg-server-6.7.0_9 /usr/ports/x11-servers/xorg-server

This package contains the X.Org X server and some associated programs.

WWW: http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xorg

- Eric Anholt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



SPACEENTER to skip
XENTER removes port
NENTER *Nuke it*, removes distribution files


 
Are you sure its a leaf port ? Because i have gnome2-lite running ? Is
gnome still going to work if i nuke this ?
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-14 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:46:59 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't NUKE it, just X it.  Then run portmanager -u before you exit
 gnome.  If gnome needs it it portmanager -u will bring it back.  In a
 worst case scenerio you can run portmanager -u from the consol.
 
 Personally I think your asking for trouble by deleting anything with
 xorg in its name, only do this if space is critical.

Its more like time critical while uprading and compiling all of this :) 

PS is portmamager -u going to make a mess of my gnome ?

I# portmanager -s

PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_2 info: Creating inital data bases


PMGRrStatus 0.2.9_2 info: looking for missing dependent ports


-=MISSING=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of
nautilus2-2.8.2_1
verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by
executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11-fm/nautilus2; make 
all-depends-list
  *  *  *  *
eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of nautilus2-2.8.2_1
 forcing rebuild of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 to fix
/var/db/pkg/nautilus2-2.8.2_1/+CONTENTS file.
  *  *  *  *
WARNING:  eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new nautilus2-2.8.2_1 dependency
and may have to be manually removed with pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2.
If portmanager fails during rebuild of nautilus2-2.8.2_1 then review
/usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED.

-=MISSING=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of
gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1
verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by
executing command:cd /usr/ports/sysutils/gnomecontrolcenter2; make 
all-depends-list
  *  *  *  *
eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1
 forcing rebuild of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 to fix
/var/db/pkg/gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1/+CONTENTS file.
  *  *  *  *
WARNING:  eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new
gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 dependency
and may have to be manually removed with pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2.
If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnomecontrolcenter2-2.8.1_1 then review
/usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED.

-=MISSING=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of
gedit2-2.8.2verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile)
by executing command:cd /usr/ports/editors/gedit; make 
all-depends-list
  *  *  *  *
eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gedit2-2.8.2
 forcing rebuild of gedit2-2.8.2 to fix
/var/db/pkg/gedit2-2.8.2/+CONTENTS file.  *  *  *  *
WARNING:  eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gedit2-2.8.2 dependency
and may have to be manually removed with pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2.
If portmanager fails during rebuild of gedit2-2.8.2 then review
/usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED.

-=MISSING=- eel2-2.8.2[/x11-toolkits/eel2] may be a dependency of
gnome2-lite-2.8.1
verifing dependency status of eel2-2.8.2 (may take awhile) by
executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make 
all-depends-list
  *  *  *  *
eel2-2.8.2 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1
 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix
/var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file.
  *  *  *  *
WARNING:  eel2-2.8.2 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency
and may have to be manually removed with pkg_delete -f eel2-2.8.2.
If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review
/usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED.

-=MISSING=- ggv2-2.8.1[/print/ggv2] may be a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1
verifing dependency status of ggv2-2.8.1 (may take awhile) by
executing command:cd /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite; make 
all-depends-list
  *  *  *  *
ggv2-2.8.1 is no longer a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1
 forcing rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 to fix
/var/db/pkg/gnome2-lite-2.8.1/+CONTENTS file.
  *  *  *  *
WARNING:  ggv2-2.8.1 may conflict with a new gnome2-lite-2.8.1 dependency
and may have to be manually removed with pkg_delete -f ggv2-2.8.1.
If portmanager fails during rebuild of gnome2-lite-2.8.1 then review
/usr/ports/UPDATING and also note what is at the bottom of /usr/ports/MOVED.

-=MISSING=- nautilus-media-0.8.1[/multimedia/nautilus-media] may be
a dependency of gnome2-lite-2.8.1
verifing dependency status of nautilus-media-0.8.1 (may 

Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-14 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:10:01 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In your case you should get your ports up to date with portmanager -u
 before you worry about deleting leaves.  because gnome was just upgraded
 it may take a day or two for everything to be brought up to date. Seeing
 the output below I say you desperately need to update these ports before
 doing anything else.

can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?
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Re: Is this a good or a bad idea to delete all off this ?

2005-03-14 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:20:46 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 14 March 2005 05:15 pm, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:10:01 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   In your case you should get your ports up to date with portmanager
   -u before you worry about deleting leaves.  because gnome was just
   upgraded it may take a day or two for everything to be brought up
   to date. Seeing the output below I say you desperately need to
   update these ports before doing anything else.
 
  can i do controle C when i want to go to sleep while upgrading ?
 
 You sure can.  portmanager is designed to be started/stopped
 anytime.  Maybe you don't want to exit out of anything though
 in gnome until everthing is upgraded.  Right now libraries are in memory
 but if you exit say X then when you restart X all of the libraries need
 to be reloaded and if you were in the middle of upgrading them things
 will get ugly.  In other words, don't shut off your system until it is
 done and don't exit out of gnome for the same reason.
 
 -Mike
 

ok thx :)
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