Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
On 2002-11-21 08:44, Stephen Hovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Gary D Kline wrote:
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:07:57PM -0500, Stephen Hovey wrote:
Oh bite me already
man, that was worth a laugh! the endless reams of this spam
make me think of pt barnum.
I apologize to the list - I thought I can cleared the cc: - didnt
realise it went out on the list. Its what I get for gettin pissed
off too late at nite.
The best thing to do is take a look at the spam headers and post a
notice to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since the originator of the message is easy
to find by looking at the following:
: Received: from mail.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63])
: by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4845643E9E
: for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:55:36 -0800 (PST)
: (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
That's what I did. More than once. Signing my messages with PGP too.
This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl. If they receive a few hundred
messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
start acting fast :-)
So instead of replying to the lists, let abuse@ know.
Many times!
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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl. If they receive a few hundred
messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
start acting fast :-)
Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us?
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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (11.21.2002 @ 0600 PST): Yann Golanski said, in 1.3K: Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? end of Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.] from Yann Golanski FreeBSD can't use any restrictive level of filtering. SpamAssassin on my server nukes some peoples' emails to this list at times. The answer to the question of why doesn't FreeBSD... is why don't you? # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE93O+Mo8KM2ULHQ/0RAupnAJ4jrosN8STUbKFUHCoQNMWFK6B5PwCfRa/u CQZUHn3SrVtJXQts0hf1wi4= =ht6x -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
At 2002-11-21T14:00:56Z, Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us? Erm, I'm roughly 99.999% against that idea. What if someone's writing to ask how to secure their FreeBSD box that's currently being used as a spam relay (and is on many blackhole lists)? For what it's worth, I run SpamAssassin locally, and use it to *mark* possible spams, but never drop them. Then I configured my client to filter based on the `X-Spam-Status' header into a spam folder that I periodically check. Once a month or so, I find a piece of mail that *should* have passed but was marked, so I have to adjust my rules and/or whitelist accordingly. -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: How do I block spam locally? (WAS: Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.])
don't top-post please. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-11-21 10:00:43 -0500: I agree, but how do I run spam filtering locally? As an average desktop user, I simply use a client to POP mail from a server -- are there client plugins that filter for spam? I currently use Evolution, but am willing to change if there a spam filter plugins for other clients. Unless Evolution can't grok usual mail formats (mbox, Maildir), you'll want to do something like: POP3 client - spam filter - disk - MUA (note that you use Evolution to do both sides of the graph) you don't need to change your MUA. As a slightly-more-than-average desktop user, I just figured out fetchmail to fetch a POP3 account to my local sendmail (base system, default install, set for local deliver only). Is SpamAssassin the best way to go? Is it a plugin for Sendmail? If I'm going to start messin' with my local MTA, should I try something besides Sendmail? The config options of Sendmail are somewhat daunting -- it seems like an SMTP handler should be simpler. you don't need fetchmail to reinject the messages to sendmail just to get them stored on the disk. sorry for being this terse, i'm short on time. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message.see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
On 21 Nov 2002 08:47:40 -0600 Kirk Strauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Erm, I'm roughly 99.999% against that idea. What if someone's writing to What about the other 0.001 percent? :) ask how to secure their FreeBSD box that's currently being used as a spam relay (and is on many blackhole lists)? It's not that a bad idea, honestly, just don't use the default 5 theshold, but a higher one. For what it's worth, I run SpamAssassin locally, and use it to *mark* possible spams, but never drop them. Then I configured my client to filter based on the `X-Spam-Status' header into a spam folder that I periodically check. Once a month or so, I find a piece of mail that *should* have passed but was marked, so I have to adjust my rules and/or whitelist accordingly.-- I also have postfix hand mail to spamassassin before it's delivered to cyrus. However, I found it even better to permban several (useless for me) TLDs at the firewall level (*.es *.kr *.cn *.tw and several southamerican countries) I'm aware you can't do that on a server like FreeBSD's, but found it extremely useful on my own one. I, personally, have never recieved a legit mail from any of those countries. The spam problem is a touchy one, but I'm sure some meassures are taken at the server level for the mailing lists. I once heard a SPAM attempt hits the FreeBSD mail servers once a second. Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk Of course it runs NetBSD! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:00:56PM +, Yann Golanski wrote:
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl. If they receive a few hundred
messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
start acting fast :-)
Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us?
The FreeBSD mail server ALREADY does a huge amount of spam filtering.
You're only seeing less than 1% of the spam that comes in. The mail
server rejects about one spam *per second* to freebsd mailing lists.
Kris
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Re: Reacting to spam targetted to freebsd.org [was: Re: PLS GET BACK TO ME.]
Thus spake Yann Golanski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoth Giorgos Keramidas on Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 15:58:03 +0200
This very spammer has hit the lists more than once, and every time I
mailed {abuse|postmaster} at a2000.nl. If they receive a few hundred
messages for each spam message they let through they will certainly
start acting fast :-)
Would it be possible for the owners of the lsit to install something
like SpamAssassin so that those messages actually don't get to us?
Just add a SPAM filter at your end. By the way, this works far
better if people don't *reply* to the SPAM, circumventing your
filters. ;-)
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