Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-20 Thread perryh
 there is also the droboshare. great little fileserver.

Last I knew Drobo supported only Samba, not NFS -- but that
was some time ago.  Have they come out with an upgrade?
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Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-19 Thread michael



Clifton Royston wrote:

I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if
it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring.
  

this would work fine with gmirror using usb/firewire drives.
there is also the droboshare. great little fileserver.
aopen cubes run great. i've had one since 2005, runs quiet with two fans.
they fully support freebsd and it can be more than a fileserver. its 
about the size of a two slice toaster. it runs below 25db of noise.



  I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged
system if it offers better value.

  Any advice would be welcomed.
  -- Clifton

  

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Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-19 Thread Brian McCann
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:


 Clifton Royston wrote:

 I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if
 it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring.


 this would work fine with gmirror using usb/firewire drives.
 there is also the droboshare. great little fileserver.
 aopen cubes run great. i've had one since 2005, runs quiet with two fans.
 they fully support freebsd and it can be more than a fileserver. its about
 the size of a two slice toaster. it runs below 25db of noise.

  I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged
 system if it offers better value.

  Any advice would be welcomed.
  -- Clifton



As a heads up, if you do this, do NOT use the Western Digital
MyBooks...I tried this...and gave up and got a D-Link NAS.  The
MyBooks sleep after no activity, and I was getting serious
corruption.

--Brian

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Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-18 Thread Clifton Royston
  My FreeBSD file server at home has been running for 5 or 6 years on a
succession of generic PC small form factor boxes (a.k.a shoebox
cases.)  I'm not very happy with this approach, because the hardware
keeps dying every two years or so.  The latest incarnation is getting
flakier and flakier and it's time to replace it.  I think one problem
is that the cooling is lousy on the ones I've used, at least with two
hard drives - I've ended up running with the cover off so it won't die
rapidly - but maybe there are better ones out there.

  Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small
case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and
which is both long-lived and fairly quiet?  (It sits on my desk, and
near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many
1U servers will not cut it.)

  As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me
twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least two
standard 3.5 hard drives and have an IDE interface.  (Eventually I may
switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at the same
time.)  I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if
it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring.

  I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged
system if it offers better value.

  Any advice would be welcomed.
  -- Clifton

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Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-18 Thread Chris Hill

On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Clifton Royston wrote:

[snip]

 Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small 
case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and 
which is both long-lived and fairly quiet?  (It sits on my desk, and 
near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many 
1U servers will not cut it.)


 As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me 
twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least 
two standard 3.5 hard drives and have an IDE interface.  (Eventually 
I may switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at 
the same time.)  I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b 
reliable) if it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring.


 I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged 
system if it offers better value.


I have a Dell GX150 SFF which has been running 24/7 for about two years 
now with no problems (knock on wood). Right now it's running 
7.1-PRERELEASE from November. It's small and very quiet; I like it.


You may have issues with: a) it nominally only supports one hard drive, 
but there are slimline spots for optical and diskette drives, so you 
may be able to commandeer one of those for a second hard drive; b) the 
machine I have has SATA interface, which is truly nothing to fear. From 
FreeBSD's standpoint, it looks exactly like ATA. If I were trying to do 
what you want to do, I'd probably end up with one HD running SATA in the 
hard drive slot, and the other running PATA in the optical slot. I 
don't know if the physical dimensions would work out for that.


See the service manual at 
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/sm_en/smdsktp.htm


..and the user guide at 
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/en/ug/index.htm


Anyway, I've had good luck so far with Dell desktop hardware; it seems 
to be well-made, easy to work with and QUIET. Check it out if you can 
get a machine cheap or free.


Hope this helps.

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Re: Recommendations on reliable home fileserver hardware?

2009-01-18 Thread Tim Judd

Clifton Royston wrote:

  My FreeBSD file server at home has been running for 5 or 6 years on a
succession of generic PC small form factor boxes (a.k.a shoebox
cases.)  I'm not very happy with this approach, because the hardware
keeps dying every two years or so.  The latest incarnation is getting
flakier and flakier and it's time to replace it.  I think one problem
is that the cooling is lousy on the ones I've used, at least with two
hard drives - I've ended up running with the cover off so it won't die
rapidly - but maybe there are better ones out there.

  Can anyone recommend an integrated SFF system or other small
case/mobo combination which they're using with FreeBSD 6 or 7, and
which is both long-lived and fairly quiet?  (It sits on my desk, and
near my wife's desk, so the vacuum-cleaner-like noise levels from many
1U servers will not cut it.)

  As I am running two 200G PATA drives in gmirror - this has saved me
twice now - one additional requirement is that it must fit at least two
standard 3.5 hard drives and have an IDE interface.  (Eventually I may
switch over to SATA but would rather not change everything at the same
time.)  I'd consider running a Mac Mini (tiny, silent, s/b reliable) if
it weren't for needing 2+ drives for mirroring.

  I'm comfortable either building my own system, or buying a packaged
system if it offers better value.

  Any advice would be welcomed.
  -- Clifton

  
I've got a shoebox Gateway I love for the case size, however it's drive 
location for the HDD has to be the worst place on earth to put it 
there.  I'm almost tempted to pull the floppy drive out and stick the 
hdd in there instead -- but I digress.


Taking a little more for desk space, you can always run with 1 internal 
3.5 drive, and hook up an external USB drive for the mirror.  FreeBSD 
won't think of it any different, it's just an 'ad' device and a 'da' device.


FWIW, this is just another option for you.

HTH --Tim
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