Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-07-01 Thread Rob

On 06/30/2010 04:45 PM, Diego Arias wrote:

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Robli...@midsummerdream.org  wrote:


I've seen the SYBA SY-PEX40008, but would prefer to have a PCI-e 4x
connector for the bandwidth and avoid a port multiplier if possible. Since
this will be in a ZFS pool, I'd prefer not to have 1 bad port take out more
than 1 disk. :)  I have seen the Sil3124 chipset mentioned before in my
searches and wasn't sure of its level of support either so it's nice to know
that chipset is well supported.  Does the siis driver support offlining and
swapping hard disks without rebooting?


The Adaptec 1430SA seems to use a Marvell chipset according to some
searching of the freebsd archives:
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-10/0389.html
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-11/0441.html
http://old.nabble.com/Adaptec-1405-on-FreeBSD-td26337538.html

But Adaptec's own site/documentation doesn't want to confirm it for me.
  The best I've come up with is:

http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12177p_created=1098385883p_sid=1tiW_K3kp_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=438p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQ6MSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjE5LDIxOSZwX3Byb2RzPTQ1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0xLjQ1JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*p_li=p_topview=1

I've found a commit that mentions support for the 1430SA:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-8/2009-November/000565.html

But I'm not sure what the state of the support is or how stable it is with
that driver (looks to be ata?)

If the 1430SA uses the Marvell chipset (as it appears to), then I guess the
question comes down to the level of support for the Marvell 88SX6541 and
88SX7042 chipsets.

Anyone know the current state of functionality for the above Marvell
chipsets?

Rob


On 06/30/2010 09:07 AM, Steve Polyack wrote:


On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote:


I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for
a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD
8.0 will support them. Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW
Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to
use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way. I know that
a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr
driver, but those are HW RAID cards.

I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and
those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports.
Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and
nothing definitive to say that they work.

I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the
Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset. I'd prefer to use Adaptec
if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to
be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's
well supported in FreeBSD. It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit
in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)

  I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress. It

may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically
does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ.

  Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD? Anyone

have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum
of 4 internal connectors?



We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to
manage a handful of drives with ZFS. The cards have some RAID features,
but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID
layer. If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option
ROM from showing up on boot.

Overall, the performance has been pretty good. The siis(4) driver has
full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of
the bells  whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port
multipliers. They have also been very stable. The only gripe for me is
that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full
performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached.




Rob
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Actually 3ware seems to have very good FreeBSD support is that beyond your
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3ware as 

Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-07-01 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010, Rob wrote:

 On 06/30/2010 04:45 PM, Diego Arias wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Robli...@midsummerdream.org  wrote:
 
  I've seen the SYBA SY-PEX40008, but would prefer to have a PCI-e 4x
  connector for the bandwidth and avoid a port multiplier if possible. Since
  this will be in a ZFS pool, I'd prefer not to have 1 bad port take out more
  than 1 disk. :)  I have seen the Sil3124 chipset mentioned before in my
  searches and wasn't sure of its level of support either so it's nice to 
  know
  that chipset is well supported.  Does the siis driver support offlining and
  swapping hard disks without rebooting?
 
 
  The Adaptec 1430SA seems to use a Marvell chipset according to some
  searching of the freebsd archives:
  http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-10/0389.html
  http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-11/0441.html
  http://old.nabble.com/Adaptec-1405-on-FreeBSD-td26337538.html
 
  But Adaptec's own site/documentation doesn't want to confirm it for me.
The best I've come up with is:
 
  http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12177p_created=1098385883p_sid=1tiW_K3kp_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=438p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQ6MSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjE5LDIxOSZwX3Byb2RzPTQ1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0xLjQ1JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*p_li=p_topview=1
 
  I've found a commit that mentions support for the 1430SA:
 
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-8/2009-November/000565.html
 
  But I'm not sure what the state of the support is or how stable it is with
  that driver (looks to be ata?)
 
  If the 1430SA uses the Marvell chipset (as it appears to), then I guess the
  question comes down to the level of support for the Marvell 88SX6541 and
  88SX7042 chipsets.
 
  Anyone know the current state of functionality for the above Marvell
  chipsets?
 
  Rob
 
 
  On 06/30/2010 09:07 AM, Steve Polyack wrote:
 
  On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote:
 
  I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for
  a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD
  8.0 will support them. Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW
  Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to
  use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way. I know that
  a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr
  driver, but those are HW RAID cards.
 
  I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and
  those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports.
  Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and
  nothing definitive to say that they work.
 
  I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the
  Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset. I'd prefer to use Adaptec
  if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to
  be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's
  well supported in FreeBSD. It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit
  in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)
 
I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress. It
  may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically
  does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ.
 
Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD? Anyone
  have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum
  of 4 internal connectors?
 
 
  We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards
  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to
  manage a handful of drives with ZFS. The cards have some RAID features,
  but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID
  layer. If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option
  ROM from showing up on boot.
 
  Overall, the performance has been pretty good. The siis(4) driver has
  full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of
  the bells  whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port
  multipliers. They have also been very stable. The only gripe for me is
  that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full
  performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached.
 
 
 
  Rob
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Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-06-30 Thread Steve Polyack

On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote:
I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for 
a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD 
8.0 will support them.  Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW 
Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to 
use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way.  I know that 
a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr 
driver, but those are HW RAID cards.


I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and 
those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports. 
Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and 
nothing definitive to say that they work.


I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the 
Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset.  I'd prefer to use Adaptec 
if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to 
be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's 
well supported in FreeBSD.  It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit 
in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)


I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress.  It 
may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically 
does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ.


Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD?  Anyone 
have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum 
of 4 internal connectors?


We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards 
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to 
manage a handful of drives with ZFS.  The cards have some RAID features, 
but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID 
layer.  If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option 
ROM from showing up on boot.


Overall, the performance has been pretty good.  The siis(4) driver has 
full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of 
the bells  whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port 
multipliers.  They have also been very stable.  The only gripe for me is 
that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full 
performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached.





Rob
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Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-06-30 Thread Rob
I've seen the SYBA SY-PEX40008, but would prefer to have a PCI-e 4x 
connector for the bandwidth and avoid a port multiplier if possible. 
Since this will be in a ZFS pool, I'd prefer not to have 1 bad port take 
out more than 1 disk. :)  I have seen the Sil3124 chipset mentioned 
before in my searches and wasn't sure of its level of support either so 
it's nice to know that chipset is well supported.  Does the siis driver 
support offlining and swapping hard disks without rebooting?



The Adaptec 1430SA seems to use a Marvell chipset according to some 
searching of the freebsd archives:

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-10/0389.html
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-11/0441.html
http://old.nabble.com/Adaptec-1405-on-FreeBSD-td26337538.html

But Adaptec's own site/documentation doesn't want to confirm it for me. 
 The best I've come up with is:

http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12177p_created=1098385883p_sid=1tiW_K3kp_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=438p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQ6MSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjE5LDIxOSZwX3Byb2RzPTQ1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0xLjQ1JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*p_li=p_topview=1

I've found a commit that mentions support for the 1430SA:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-8/2009-November/000565.html

But I'm not sure what the state of the support is or how stable it is 
with that driver (looks to be ata?)


If the 1430SA uses the Marvell chipset (as it appears to), then I guess 
the question comes down to the level of support for the Marvell 88SX6541 
and 88SX7042 chipsets.


Anyone know the current state of functionality for the above Marvell 
chipsets?


Rob

On 06/30/2010 09:07 AM, Steve Polyack wrote:

On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote:

I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for
a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD
8.0 will support them. Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW
Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to
use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way. I know that
a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr
driver, but those are HW RAID cards.

I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and
those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports.
Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and
nothing definitive to say that they work.

I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the
Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset. I'd prefer to use Adaptec
if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to
be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's
well supported in FreeBSD. It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit
in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)


I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress. It
may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically
does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ.


Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD? Anyone
have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum
of 4 internal connectors?


We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to
manage a handful of drives with ZFS. The cards have some RAID features,
but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID
layer. If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option
ROM from showing up on boot.

Overall, the performance has been pretty good. The siis(4) driver has
full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of
the bells  whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port
multipliers. They have also been very stable. The only gripe for me is
that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full
performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached.




Rob
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Re: Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-06-30 Thread Diego Arias
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Rob li...@midsummerdream.org wrote:

 I've seen the SYBA SY-PEX40008, but would prefer to have a PCI-e 4x
 connector for the bandwidth and avoid a port multiplier if possible. Since
 this will be in a ZFS pool, I'd prefer not to have 1 bad port take out more
 than 1 disk. :)  I have seen the Sil3124 chipset mentioned before in my
 searches and wasn't sure of its level of support either so it's nice to know
 that chipset is well supported.  Does the siis driver support offlining and
 swapping hard disks without rebooting?


 The Adaptec 1430SA seems to use a Marvell chipset according to some
 searching of the freebsd archives:
 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2005-10/0389.html
 http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2005-11/0441.html
 http://old.nabble.com/Adaptec-1405-on-FreeBSD-td26337538.html

 But Adaptec's own site/documentation doesn't want to confirm it for me.
  The best I've come up with is:

 http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adaptec_tic.cfg/php.exe/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12177p_created=1098385883p_sid=1tiW_K3kp_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=438p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQ6MSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjE5LDIxOSZwX3Byb2RzPTQ1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0xLjQ1JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*p_li=p_topview=1

 I've found a commit that mentions support for the 1430SA:

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-src-stable-8/2009-November/000565.html

 But I'm not sure what the state of the support is or how stable it is with
 that driver (looks to be ata?)

 If the 1430SA uses the Marvell chipset (as it appears to), then I guess the
 question comes down to the level of support for the Marvell 88SX6541 and
 88SX7042 chipsets.

 Anyone know the current state of functionality for the above Marvell
 chipsets?

 Rob


 On 06/30/2010 09:07 AM, Steve Polyack wrote:

 On 06/29/10 16:58, Rob wrote:

 I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for
 a FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD
 8.0 will support them. Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW
 Raid controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to
 use ZFS and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way. I know that
 a HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr
 driver, but those are HW RAID cards.

 I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and
 those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports.
 Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and
 nothing definitive to say that they work.

 I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the
 Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset. I'd prefer to use Adaptec
 if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to
 be well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's
 well supported in FreeBSD. It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit
 in support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)

  I think the Marvell SATA chipset work is still a work-in-progress. It
 may still be supported by the ata(4) driver, but that driver typically
 does not support any SATA-specific features, such as NCQ.

  Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD? Anyone
 have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum
 of 4 internal connectors?


 We use a handful of the SYBA SY-PEX40008 cards
 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027) to
 manage a handful of drives with ZFS. The cards have some RAID features,
 but you can simply plug disks in and use them without involving the RAID
 layer. If your motherboard supports it, you can even disable the Option
 ROM from showing up on boot.

 Overall, the performance has been pretty good. The siis(4) driver has
 full support for the Sil3124 chipset that these use and supports all of
 the bells  whistles like NCQ and FIS-based switching for port
 multipliers. They have also been very stable. The only gripe for me is
 that it's only 1x PCI-E, instead of 4x, so you won't get full
 performance out of it once you have 4 fast drives attached.



 Rob
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Recommended supported SATA Cards?

2010-06-29 Thread Rob
I've been trying to find a PCI-e SATA II (300MB/s) controller card for a 
FreeBSD 8.0 system, but am having problems determining if FreeBSD 8.0 
will support them.  Ideally I'd like to find one that is not a HW Raid 
controller, as I don't need that functionality since I place to use ZFS 
and the HW Raid on the card just gets in the way.  I know that a 
HighPoint RocketRAID 23x0 (2310, 2320) will work with the htprr driver, 
but those are HW RAID cards.


I've found 'Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA' and 'Rosewill RC-218' cards, and 
those are the ones I'm having a hard time telling if FreeBSD supports. 
Searching of the e-mail archives has given me mixed results and nothing 
definitive to say that they work.


I'm not sure what chipset the Adaptec 2241000-R 1430SA uses, but the 
Rosewill uses the Marvell 88SX7042 chipset.  I'd prefer to use Adaptec 
if possible as in the past they produced good SCSI boards and used to be 
well supported (in Linux anyway), but I'll use the Rosewill if it's well 
supported in FreeBSD.  It's also possible Adaptec has taken a hit in 
support/quality since I last used one of their boards. :)


Does anyone know if the above boards are supported in FreeBSD?  Anyone 
have any recommendations for PCI-e 4x SATA controllers with a minimum of 
4 internal connectors?


Rob
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