How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Lars Eighner


I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked.  I'm dead in
the water when stuck in x.org.

How do I do that?  I suppose the whole ports tree has to go back since
x.org drags in a bunch of stuff without doing anything itself.

I'm on 8.3 amd64.

PS: the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU switch does not exist anymore because nouveau
doesn't exist anymore.

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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:
 
 I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked.  I'm dead in
 the water when stuck in x.org.

Maybe putting

Option  DontVTSwitch  false

in Section ServerFlags or /etc/X11/xorg.conf helps?


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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:
  
  I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked.  I'm dead in
  the water when stuck in x.org.
 
 Maybe putting
 
 OptionDontVTSwitch  false
 
 in Section ServerFlags or /etc/X11/xorg.conf helps?

Of course not or - of. Maybe it belongs to section
ServerLayout, I'm not sure, it changes quite often
which options are supported and where they have to be
placed. :-)

And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version
of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in
both directions).

portdowngrade x11/xorg -s :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs

(Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.)



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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Lars Eighner

On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:


I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked.  I'm dead in
the water when stuck in x.org.


Maybe putting

Option  DontVTSwitchfalse

in Section ServerFlags or /etc/X11/xorg.conf helps?


Of course not or - of. Maybe it belongs to section
ServerLayout, I'm not sure, it changes quite often
which options are supported and where they have to be
placed. :-)


Doesn't seem to help, and also it appears from my researches that is not
assignable, but like make options, if it present it is true but there is no
way to make it false.



And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version
of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in
both directions).


portdowngrade does not really provide much help for meta ports, but I took a
flier and rolled xorg-server back to 1.7.5,1 and this sort of worked (mapped
tty changing to shift-Fx - not my first choice, but makes life possible.



portdowngrade x11/xorg -s :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs

(Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.)



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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread doug

On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:


I need to rollback x.org to a point that tty switching worked.  I'm dead in
the water when stuck in x.org.


Maybe putting

Option  DontVTSwitchfalse

in Section ServerFlags or /etc/X11/xorg.conf helps?


Of course not or - of. Maybe it belongs to section
ServerLayout, I'm not sure, it changes quite often
which options are supported and where they have to be
placed. :-)

And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version
of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in
both directions).

portdowngrade x11/xorg -s :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs

(Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.)


That was such a great idea, I also just tried it. For me at least it is not that 
alt-ctrl-Fn does not switch, it does. What is does not do is connect to the 
monitor except for alt-ctrl-F9. So in the absence of a crash I can:


alt-ctrl-F1 - get a blank screen with the monitor displaying no signal
alt-ctrl-F2 - same thing sometimes required (for me) to make the next one work
alt-ctrl-F9 - back to my desktop

In the event of a crash I am fairly far up the creek. No errors are logged 
anywhere. I installed 9.0-RELEASE #0 and then did a pkg_add for Xorg. In my case 
I would not think there is anything to backup to. I did not see any PRs with 
this symptom. A similar one was deemed user error as I recall. Google finds 
a few similar complaints.



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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 24 May 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:



And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version
of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in
both directions).

portdowngrade x11/xorg -s 
:pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs


(Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.)


That was such a great idea, I also just tried it. For me at least it is not 
that alt-ctrl-Fn does not switch, it does. What is does not do is connect to 
the monitor except for alt-ctrl-F9. So in the absence of a crash I can:


alt-ctrl-F1 - get a blank screen with the monitor displaying no signal
alt-ctrl-F2 - same thing sometimes required (for me) to make the next one 
work

alt-ctrl-F9 - back to my desktop

In the event of a crash I am fairly far up the creek. No errors are logged 
anywhere. I installed 9.0-RELEASE #0 and then did a pkg_add for Xorg. In my 
case I would not think there is anything to backup to. I did not see any PRs 
with this symptom. A similar one was deemed user error as I recall. Google 
finds a few similar complaints.


The latest xorg switches to and from console with my Radeon 4650.  It 
might be a problem specific to the newer version of the Intel video 
driver.

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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread doug



On Thu, 24 May 2012, Warren Block wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote:


That was such a great idea, I also just tried it. For me at least it is not 
that alt-ctrl-Fn does not switch, it does. What is does not do is connect 
to the monitor except for alt-ctrl-F9. So in the absence of a crash I can:


alt-ctrl-F1 - get a blank screen with the monitor displaying no signal
alt-ctrl-F2 - same thing sometimes required (for me) to make the next one 
work

alt-ctrl-F9 - back to my desktop

In the event of a crash I am fairly far up the creek. No errors are logged 
anywhere. I installed 9.0-RELEASE #0 and then did a pkg_add for Xorg. In my 
case I would not think there is anything to backup to. I did not see any 
PRs with this symptom. A similar one was deemed user error as I recall. 
Google finds a few similar complaints.


The latest xorg switches to and from console with my Radeon 4650.  It might 
be a problem specific to the newer version of the Intel video driver.


Thanks for the reply Warren, but nope:

Driver  radeon
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
BusID   PCI:0:1:0

Driver = xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_4

vgapci0@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x03 card=0x2aca103c chip=0x98021002 rev=0x00
  hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc'
device = 'AMD Radeon HD 6310 GraphicsATI'
class  = display
subclass   = VGA

Not sure what else might be of interest. 9.0 works pretty well so once every 
couple of weeks rebooting is a small price as 9.0 and Xorg xorg-7.5.1 
supports the NIC and video. On 8.2 no either net and the Vesa driver rendered 
this system pretty useless FreeBSD-wise on 8.x.

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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Lars Eighner

On Thu, 24 May 2012, Warren Block wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012, Polytropon wrote:


On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:11:32 +0200, Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:45:06 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner wrote:



And in worst case, use portdowngrade to get an older version
of the port (may require recompiling a lot of dependencies in
both directions).

portdowngrade x11/xorg -s 
:pserver:anon...@anoncvs.tw.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs


(Maybe you need to be more specific as x11 is only a metaport.)


That was such a great idea, I also just tried it. For me at least it is not 
that alt-ctrl-Fn does not switch, it does. What is does not do is connect 
to the monitor except for alt-ctrl-F9. So in the absence of a crash I can:


alt-ctrl-F1 - get a blank screen with the monitor displaying no signal
alt-ctrl-F2 - same thing sometimes required (for me) to make the next one 
work

alt-ctrl-F9 - back to my desktop

In the event of a crash I am fairly far up the creek. No errors are logged 
anywhere. I installed 9.0-RELEASE #0 and then did a pkg_add for Xorg. In my 
case I would not think there is anything to backup to. I did not see any 
PRs with this symptom. A similar one was deemed user error as I recall. 
Google finds a few similar complaints.


The latest xorg switches to and from console with my Radeon 4650.  It might 
be a problem specific to the newer version of the Intel video driver.



It is definitely a problem for (at least some of) those with Intel chips,
but at least for me the VESA driver did not fix the tty switching problem.
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Re: How to rollback xorg to working tty switch

2012-05-24 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 24 May 2012, d...@safeport.com wrote:

The latest xorg switches to and from console with my Radeon 4650.  It might 
be a problem specific to the newer version of the Intel video driver.


Thanks for the reply Warren, but nope:

   Driver  radeon
   VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
   BoardName   Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
   BusID   PCI:0:1:0

Driver = xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_4

vgapci0@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x03 card=0x2aca103c chip=0x98021002 rev=0x00
 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc'
   device = 'AMD Radeon HD 6310 GraphicsATI'
   class  = display
   subclass   = VGA

Not sure what else might be of interest. 9.0 works pretty well so once every 
couple of weeks rebooting is a small price as 9.0 and Xorg xorg-7.5.1 
supports the NIC and video. On 8.2 no either net and the Vesa driver rendered 
this system pretty useless FreeBSD-wise on 8.x.


Mine has xorg-7.5.2 and WITH_XORG_NEW=yes in /etc/make.conf.
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mksnap_ffs rollback?

2005-09-15 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
Hi, 

Is it possible in FreeBSD to rollback a snapshot that is done with 
mksnap_ffs or with mount -o snapshot? 

It seems that there is no way of doing that in FreeBSD am i right ? 



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Re: mksnap_ffs rollback?

2005-09-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 15), Omer Faruk Sen said:
 Is it possible in FreeBSD to rollback a snapshot that is done with
 mksnap_ffs or with mount -o snapshot?
 
 It seems that there is no way of doing that in FreeBSD am i right ?

Correct.  The best you can do is dd or dumprestore the snapshot to a
new disk.

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Rollback

2004-08-20 Thread Jerome Mascari
I have a machine that is running freebsd 5.1, I need to go back to 4.10 because a 
software manufacturer that I have to do business with only supports that release right 
now. Is there an easy way install 4.10 over 5.1?

thanks,

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Re: Rollback

2004-08-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jerome Mascari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a machine that is running freebsd 5.1, I need to go back to
 4.10 because a software manufacturer that I have to do business with
 only supports that release right now. Is there an easy way install
 4.10 over 5.1?

Probably back up, do a fresh install, and restore your files.  Even if
your partitions are UFS1 (4.x doesn't understand UFS2), it's probably
easiest to start clean.

Also note that 4.10 was released *after* 5.1 (by nearly a year).
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Re: Problem with the upgrade and now I need to rollback.. =/

2002-11-22 Thread Kjell

 Ok well I attempted the upgrade on a remote machine from 4.6 to 5.0 and it
 failed, miserably. Before it failed, it was throwing a message across the
 screen as to the location where it backed up the existing kernel. Does
 anyone, by chance, know the default location and filename for the kernel
 backup?
 
For location of old kernel, see http://www.schlacter.net (towards the end)
gl from Kjell
 
 Also, if anyone has a link on the rollback procedure on a FreeBSD kernel
 (4.6) that would be greatly appreciated also. My searches on FreeBSD.org and
 google haven't turned up much. Mostly mysql documents which I find a little
 hard to believe that mysql has that much higher ranking pages then the
 FreeBSD site.
 
 At any rate, please if you can, help... while I write 1,000 times on the
 chalkboard I will not attempt an upgrade on the server when I don't have it
 sitting in front of me.




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Re: Problem with the upgrade and now I need to rollback.. =/

2002-11-22 Thread paul beard
Ben Turner wrote:


Ok well I attempted the upgrade on a remote machine from 4.6 to 
5.0 and it
failed, miserably. Before it failed, it was throwing a message 
across the
screen as to the location where it backed up the existing 
kernel. Does
anyone, by chance, know the default location and filename for 
the kernel
backup?

I may be off here, but mine always end up as kernel.old and 
kernel.GENERIC, both in /





Also, if anyone has a link on the rollback procedure on a 
FreeBSD kernel
(4.6) that would be greatly appreciated also. My searches on 
FreeBSD.org and
google haven't turned up much. Mostly mysql documents which I 
find a little
hard to believe that mysql has that much higher ranking pages 
then the
FreeBSD site.

that's understandable: rollback is a database operation and is 
likely to generate lots of pages, for reasons not dissimilar to 
yours.


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Re: Problem with the upgrade and now I need to rollback.. =/

2002-11-22 Thread paul beard
Ben Turner wrote:


Ok well I attempted the upgrade on a remote machine from 4.6 to 
5.0 and it
failed, miserably. Before it failed, it was throwing a message 
across the
screen as to the location where it backed up the existing 
kernel. Does
anyone, by chance, know the default location and filename for 
the kernel
backup?

I got an email offlist that suggested a 5.0 system would have its 
kernels in /boot: it might be worth trying that. I'm not running 
-current, so I can't confirm.


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Problem with the upgrade and now I need to rollback.. =/

2002-11-21 Thread Ben Turner
Ok well I attempted the upgrade on a remote machine from 4.6 to 5.0 and it
failed, miserably. Before it failed, it was throwing a message across the
screen as to the location where it backed up the existing kernel. Does
anyone, by chance, know the default location and filename for the kernel
backup?



Also, if anyone has a link on the rollback procedure on a FreeBSD kernel
(4.6) that would be greatly appreciated also. My searches on FreeBSD.org and
google haven't turned up much. Mostly mysql documents which I find a little
hard to believe that mysql has that much higher ranking pages then the
FreeBSD site.



At any rate, please if you can, help... while I write 1,000 times on the
chalkboard I will not attempt an upgrade on the server when I don't have it
sitting in front of me.



Thanks,

Ben


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