Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-17 Thread Justin L. Boss
toor is a base system user. It is a default user. It is used for several 
reason and is secure as long as no one can access your console directly.

On Monday 16 August 2004 09:57 am, James A. Coulter wrote:
 The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:

  Checking for uids of 0:
  root 0
  toor 0

 This is the first time I've seen this message.

 I checked /etc/passwd and found this:

  root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
  toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:

 I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a
 small home LAN.

 I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't find
 any.

 Is this something to be concerned about?

 Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I am still very much a newbie
 and trying to learn what I can about security.

 Thanks for your patience,

 Jim
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Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread James A. Coulter
The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:

Checking for uids of 0:
root 0
toor 0

This is the first time I've seen this message.

I checked /etc/passwd and found this:

root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:

I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a small
home LAN.  

I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't find any.

Is this something to be concerned about?  

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I am still very much a newbie
and trying to learn what I can about security.

Thanks for your patience,

Jim
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Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread Volker Kindermann
Hi James,


 The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:
 
   Checking for uids of 0:
   root 0
   toor 0
 
 This is the first time I've seen this message.
 
 I checked /etc/passwd and found this:
 
   root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
   toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
 
 I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a
 small home LAN.  
 
 I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't
 find any.

did you install bash? Normally, the bash from ports or packages will
install the toor account so you don't have to change root's shell.

If you installed bash then there's nothing to worry about this entry.
If you don't need it, just use vipw and delete it.

 -volker
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Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread Siddhartha Jain
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James A. Coulter wrote:
| The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:
|
|   Checking for uids of 0:
|   root 0
|   toor 0
|
| This is the first time I've seen this message.
|
| I checked /etc/passwd and found this:
|
|   root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
|   toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
|
| I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a
small
| home LAN.
|
| I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't
find any.
|
| Is this something to be concerned about?
|
| Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I am still very much a newbie
| and trying to learn what I can about security.
http://freebsd.active-venture.com/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT
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Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread Radek Kozlowski
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:57:37AM -0500, James A. Coulter wrote:
 The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:
 
   Checking for uids of 0:
   root 0
   toor 0
 
 This is the first time I've seen this message.
 
 I checked /etc/passwd and found this:
 
   root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
   toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
 
 I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a small
 home LAN.  
 
 I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't find any.
 
 Is this something to be concerned about?  
 
 Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I am still very much a newbie
 and trying to learn what I can about security.
 
 Thanks for your patience,

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT

-Radek
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Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:
 
   Checking for uids of 0:
   root 0
   toor 0
 
 This is the first time I've seen this message.
 
 I checked /etc/passwd and found this:
 
   root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
   toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
 
 I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a small
 home LAN.  
 
 I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't find any.
 
 Is this something to be concerned about?  

No.  It is normal.
It is one of the normal accounts put there in a standard install.
It is essentially a root account by another name.
Some things used to like to use it to own their installed stuff but
avoid using root directly.
I don't know if anything really does that any more.
I sometimes use it as a model pw entry when in vipw for
creating new accounts directly to help avoid missing a field.

 
 Sorry if this is an obvious question, but I am still very much a newbie
 and trying to learn what I can about security.

This has been brought up and answered numerous times in the past.
You might try and search for information on toor account.  You 
should be able to find something.

jerry

 
 Thanks for your patience,
 
 Jim
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Re: Security question - uids of 0

2004-08-16 Thread James A. Coulter
On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 05:01:51PM +0200, Volker Kindermann wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 
  The following appeared in my latest daily security run output:
  
  Checking for uids of 0:
  root 0
  toor 0
  
  This is the first time I've seen this message.
  
  I checked /etc/passwd and found this:
  
  root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
  toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
  
  I am running FreeBSD 4.10 as a gateway/router/firewall with IPFW for a
  small home LAN.  
  
  I ran ps -aux and looked for any processes owned by toor but didn't
  find any.
 
 did you install bash? Normally, the bash from ports or packages will
 install the toor account so you don't have to change root's shell.
 
 If you installed bash then there's nothing to worry about this entry.
 If you don't need it, just use vipw and delete it.
 
  -volker

Thank you Volker - I did install bash several weeks ago, so the sudden
appearance of the message in my daily security run caught my attention.

Thanks to everyone who sent the 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT
link. 

Jim 
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