Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-21 Thread Danial Thom
--- Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/20/06, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: User manuals and how-tos don't generally get copyright notices, because there is nothing creative about it. Someone could write exactly the same thing (just about), and you'd have little claim

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread David Hoffman
On 6/19/06, John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 18 June 2006 19:49, David Hoffman wrote: * *It appears the page at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious breach of copyright. The article, which was originally written and posted to the Internet by

RE: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Hoffman Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:21 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post -- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 18, 2006 9:19 PM

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Jim Stapleton
Mr. Hoffman, I'm surprised this hasn't been said, and I'm probably overstepping my bounds by saying this, but I've been following this topic, and I have trouble seeing it as anything but trolling. The freeBSD groups have always been excessively helpful and friendly, and you've done alot to insult

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Danial Thom
--- Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/19/06, Christopher Weldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett wrote: Obviously, you have never spent days trying out a relatively undocumented procedure, finally getting it right, and then decided

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Danial Thom
--- Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Hoffman, I'm surprised this hasn't been said, and I'm probably overstepping my bounds by saying this, but I've been following this topic, and I have trouble seeing it as anything but trolling. The freeBSD groups have always been excessively

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-20 Thread Brett
On 6/20/06, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: User manuals and how-tos don't generally get copyright notices, because there is nothing creative about it. Someone could write exactly the same thing (just about), and you'd have little claim to it because its just a procedural description.

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Dennis Olvany [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a look at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htm and I am afraid that you will find this article is not eligible for copyright. It constitutes neither an artistic nor literary work. The article conveys only facts and facts are not eligible

Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers. Hasn't this gone on long enough? On 6/18/06

Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Joe Holden
David Hoffman wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 18, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think a formal apology should be issued by the infringers. Hasn't this gone

RE: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Ingrid Kast Fuller
I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a problem with this article. He did NOT bother to tell me he was the owner of it. All I knew is someone named Brett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was letting me know there was a problem. I immediately went to arbornet.org to see

Re: [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post **It appears the page at http://www.houfug.org/help/install_freebsd.htmconstitutes a serious breach of copyright. The article, which

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Brett
Hello I hope the DMCA copyright notice, found at http://arbornet.org/~soup/dmca.html , clears up any confusion. thank you! On 6/18/06, Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I responded to Bretts email 6 minutes after he informed me there maybe a problem with this article. He did NOT

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
It'll certainly be less confusing that what HouFUG is publishing. They've now noted on their site that it was written by you. However, they STILL claim they own the copyright. Have you waived any of your exclusive rights to the work? On 6/18/06, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I hope

Re: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
Update: their website now attributes copyright to both HouFUG AND Brett. This is despite the fact that Brett seems to be the sole owner of the work. I'm not sure why this community feels it can disregard rights to intellectual property, especially when it produces so much on its OWN to be proud

Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread David Hoffman
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jun 18, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post To: Dennis Olvany [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], thisdayislong

Re: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Dennis Olvany
...facts are not eligible for copyright. I'm afraid you're incorrect. The work in question is indeed copyrightable under the Berne Convention, which many countries have ratified, including the United States, where the content is hosted. The United States, as well as many other countries,

Re: [Hou-freebsd] Serious breach of copyright -- First post

2006-06-18 Thread Tom Rhodes
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:44:02 -0500 Ingrid Kast Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone added it to the freebsd-config mailing list, they should not have mailed a copyritten piece on a mailing list for public use. This has been added to the bottom of the page since we are unsure of the