Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-07 Thread David Rawling

On 7/01/2010 2:35 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:20:53PM +0800, Paul Shi wrote:
   

Hi Everyone,

I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD server
machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is 2.0.5
but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5
in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have a
handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!
 

I haven't followed your whole thread, but is there a good reason
you want to use such an old version of FreeBSD?   You would be
very seriously better off installing the latest version -- especially
if you plan to use the system on the internet.  There have been many
many security fixes since 2.0.5 was around. It should not be
difficult to have access to the latest version in Hong Kong.
There may even be a mirror site there.
   
I definitely second this - unless there's an old application that 
doesn't work any more, it would certainly be easier and more secure to 
use the 7.2 or 8.0 releases of FreeBSD.


After all, Internet or Intranet, it only takes one loathsome, 
dispicable, contemptible miscreant to find a security hole, and your 
entire server is toast.


There appears to be a mirror site for FreeBSD in Hong Kong at 
ftp://ftp.hk.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/


Dave.

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Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Paul Shi
Hi Everyone,

I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD server
machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is 2.0.5
but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5
in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have a
handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!

Your sincerely,
Paul Shi
Electronic and Communication Engineering Senior
Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
University of Hong Kong
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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Seaman

Paul Shi wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD server
machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is 2.0.5
but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5
in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have a
handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!


Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 even have any support for wireless networking devices?  


As I recall for that vintage of FreeBSD, it was simply a matter of uncommenting
the appropriate line in /etc/inetd.conf and (re)starting inetd -- there are no
rc.subr scripts in a system that old, so to restart inetd, you'ld have to do
something like:

  # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

To start it at all, just run:

  # /usr/sbin/inetd

Enabling it to be automatically started on reboot is pretty much the same as
nowadays: just stick inetd_enable=YES into /etc/rc.conf.  If you want to
provide anonymous FTP, then I believe there were instructions in the ftpd(8)
man page.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Elias Chrysocheris
On Wednesday 06 of January 2010 12:20:53 Paul Shi wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD server
 machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is
  2.0.5 but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD
  2.0.5 in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have
  a handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!
 
 Your sincerely,
 Paul Shi
 Electronic and Communication Engineering Senior
 Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
 University of Hong Kong
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See Chapter 29 section 8: 29.8 File Transfer Protocol (FTP)
Contributed by Murray Stokely.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-ftp.html

It worked for me so I don't thing that you are going to have problems if you 
follow these instructions.

Elias
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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:38:17 +, Matthew Seaman 
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:
 As I recall for that vintage of FreeBSD, it was simply a matter of 
 uncommenting
 the appropriate line in /etc/inetd.conf [...]

Which would be something like

ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/ftpd ftpd -ll

Note that I've appended ftpd -ll to enable extended
logging which is often useful when running an FTP server,
so you can check things if problems occur. To make this
setting take effect, touch /var/log/ftpd.log and

!ftpd
*.* /var/log/ftpd.log

to your /etc/syslog.conf.

I'm not sure if all these mechanisms have already been
present on 2.0.5, because I'm a FreeBSD user since 4.0.

Did 2.0.5 already have sysinstall? I seem to remember that
when enabling FTP, a little subtree was created in /var/ftp.
But I think it was related to anonymous FTP. If you're not
going to use it - I didn't say anything. :-)



 Enabling it to be automatically started on reboot is pretty much the same as
 nowadays: just stick inetd_enable=YES into /etc/rc.conf. 

Hasn't there been ,,ftpd_enable=YES'' in 2.0.5's rc.conf
already? Allthough I'm running FTP services, I've never used
that setting (inetd is sufficient).



 If you want to
 provide anonymous FTP, then I believe there were instructions in the ftpd(8)
 man page.

At least on my (7-S) system it is the case, but there should
be similar information in earlier man pages. It describes
the stuff sysinstall does, as I mentioned (guessed) before.

For security considerations, keep an eye on /etc/ftpusers;
the names ftp (stands for anonymous FTP account - if
you don't want to provide that service) and of course root
should be contained.



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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Paul Shi
Dear Matthew and Everyone,

Thank you so much for your response. I think I will just create a user named
ftp to enable anonymous access since security is not our major concern so
far.

The thing concerns me is exact the question you asked in the first place:
Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 even have any support for wireless networking devices?
Because I cannot find any reference it. I am wondering if anyone in this
mailing list has a answer to this question. And I am just curious to see how
people made wireless network back in 1990s. It must be quite fun. Again,
any comment on wireless networking under FreeBSD will be greatly
appreciated! Thank all of you so much!

Your sincerely,
Paul Shi
Electronic and Communication Engineering Senior
Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
University of Hong Kong


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Matthew Seaman 
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 Paul Shi wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD
 server
 machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is
 2.0.5
 but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5
 in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have a
 handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!


 Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 even have any support for wireless networking devices?
 As I recall for that vintage of FreeBSD, it was simply a matter of
 uncommenting
 the appropriate line in /etc/inetd.conf and (re)starting inetd -- there are
 no
 rc.subr scripts in a system that old, so to restart inetd, you'ld have to
 do
 something like:

  # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid`

 To start it at all, just run:

  # /usr/sbin/inetd

 Enabling it to be automatically started on reboot is pretty much the same
 as
 nowadays: just stick inetd_enable=YES into /etc/rc.conf.  If you want to
 provide anonymous FTP, then I believe there were instructions in the
 ftpd(8)
 man page.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Robert Huff

Hello:

  The thing concerns me is exact the question you asked in the
  first place: Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 even have any support for
  wireless networking devices?  Because I cannot find any reference
  it. I am wondering if anyone in this mailing list has a answer to
  this question. And I am just curious to see how people made
  wireless network back in 1990s.

I believe the answer would be No..  The first mention I can
find of wireless adapters in the release notes is for 3.3, in late
1998.


Robert Huff


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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Seaman

Robert Huff wrote:

Hello:


 The thing concerns me is exact the question you asked in the
 first place: Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 even have any support for
 wireless networking devices?  Because I cannot find any reference
 it. I am wondering if anyone in this mailing list has a answer to
 this question. And I am just curious to see how people made
 wireless network back in 1990s.


I believe the answer would be No..  The first mention I can
find of wireless adapters in the release notes is for 3.3, in late
1998.


Wireless networking in the mid-90's would have been a very new thing,
at least as a consumer item.  It's about then that the very first mobile
phones came out -- those were as big a brick and had about an hour's battery
life. 


Much of the computing world was running 10baseT thin-wire ethernet, and
although 100baseT Cat5 kit was available, it was pretty expensive.  The
WWW had only just become popular -- it was around '93  that it started to
make the big-time.  Most home connectivity was via acoustically coupled
modems running at 96Kbaud if you were lucky. 48Kbaud probably more common[*].
Oh, and 8 MB RAM or 1 GB Hard disk was considered quite big...

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] The Beeb was still using that modem-handshaking sound clip as an aural
clue that the subject of an item was 'computers' even up to a year or so
ago.

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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Jon Radel

Paul Shi wrote:

Dear Matthew and Everyone,

Thank you so much for your response. I think I will just create a user named
ftp to enable anonymous access since security is not our major concern so
far.


I should hope that security will never be your concern, given how many 
years of security related patches you're missing.


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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Robert Huff

Matthew Seaman writes:

  [*] The Beeb was still using that modem-handshaking sound clip as
  an aural clue that the subject of an item was 'computers' even up
  to a year or so ago.

Which may be anachronistic, but is both audibly and
conceptually distinct.  Quickly - what's the sound of an OC3, or a
web page loading?
(I spent 1996 (I think) doing QA for a company building a
remote access product.  Got to the point I could name each phase of
the modem handshake, and stood a good chance of being able to
identify the speed and encryption method.)


Robert Huff

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Re: Setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5?

2010-01-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:20:53PM +0800, Paul Shi wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am trying to find a way to setup a wireless network with a FreeBSD server
 machine running FTP service. The release of FreeBSD I intend to use is 2.0.5
 but I could not find anything on how to setup FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5
 in handbook. There are only howto on PPP and SLIP. Does anyone have a
 handbook on how to enable FTP service on FreeBSD 2.0.5? Millions thanks!

The FreeBSD Handbook has information on using FTP.

I haven't followed your whole thread, but is there a good reason
you want to use such an old version of FreeBSD?   You would be
very seriously better off installing the latest version -- especially
if you plan to use the system on the internet.  There have been many
many security fixes since 2.0.5 was around. It should not be
difficult to have access to the latest version in Hong Kong.  
There may even be a mirror site there.

jerry   


 
 Your sincerely,
 Paul Shi
 Electronic and Communication Engineering Senior
 Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering
 University of Hong Kong
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