Re: Solution for school lab just a thought

2011-10-31 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi


 You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the 
 pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the putty client installed. 
 Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. 
 Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the 
 desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to 
 teach students to be system administrators.

Humm Interesting... 
In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do
access 
windows system. 
In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is
the solution.
Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation,
projects... from time to time
the problem is the software... 
What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this
teaching??? 

I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and
resolve them.
the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get
answers,
so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several
program
languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript
printing (cups),
some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot,
dvdstyler)
can make the difference. They can download small videos from their
phones, and
produce digital media, share it on DVDs...  the home lesson is send via
email (everyone
has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write
now...

Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and
so produce
software for the community.  They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD
servers,
share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and
so on...

There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy
from the 
students as long as they produce good software.. 

What is the other alternative???  finish high school and than look for a
job???
XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who
can
succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my
boys... 
They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule..  

Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years???

Just a thought...

Sergio



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Re: Solution for school lab just a thought

2011-10-31 Thread Mario Lobo
On Monday 31 October 2011 10:56:44 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
  You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the
  pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the putty client installed.
  Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system.
  Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the
  desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to
  teach students to be system administrators.
 
 Humm Interesting...
 In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do
 access
 windows system.
 In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is
 the solution.
 Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation,
 projects... from time to time
 the problem is the software...
 What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this
 teaching???
 
 I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and
 resolve them.
 the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get
 answers,
 so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several
 program
 languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript
 printing (cups),
 some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot,
 dvdstyler)
 can make the difference. They can download small videos from their
 phones, and
 produce digital media, share it on DVDs...  the home lesson is send via
 email (everyone
 has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write
 now...
 
 Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and
 so produce
 software for the community.  They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD
 servers,
 share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and
 so on...
 
 There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy
 from the
 students as long as they produce good software..
 
 What is the other alternative???  finish high school and than look for a
 job???
 XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who
 can
 succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my
 boys...
 They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule..
 
 Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years???
 
 Just a thought...
 
 Sergio
 

Picture an arrow whistling through the wind, undisturbed, and hitting the 
bullseye dead in its perfect center,

That's what your thought is to me, Sergio.

+10 !

Thank you.

-- 
Mario Lobo
http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)
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Re: Solution for school lab just a thought

2011-10-31 Thread Jorge Biquez

Hello all.

Sergio.

Would you mind to contact me offline (maybe some people in the list 
won't be interested) I help communities and non profit (very poor) 
organizations here and would like to know more about your schema and results.


Here also we get donattions of hardware. The old 386 and so, 
computers that big companies do not use anymore and with that we have 
to work. We are also trying to giving the kids a chance to learn 
something else so they can compete in a hard job market.


Thanks in advance

Jorge Biquez
jbiq...@intranet.com.mx


At 04:09 p.m. 31/10/2011, Mario Lobo wrote:

On Monday 31 October 2011 10:56:44 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
  You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the
  pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the putty client installed.
  Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system.
  Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the
  desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to
  teach students to be system administrators.

 Humm Interesting...
 In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do
 access
 windows system.
 In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is
 the solution.
 Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation,
 projects... from time to time
 the problem is the software...
 What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this
 teaching???

 I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and
 resolve them.
 the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get
 answers,
 so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several
 program
 languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript
 printing (cups),
 some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot,
 dvdstyler)
 can make the difference. They can download small videos from their
 phones, and
 produce digital media, share it on DVDs...  the home lesson is send via
 email (everyone
 has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write
 now...

 Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and
 so produce
 software for the community.  They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD
 servers,
 share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and
 so on...

 There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy
 from the
 students as long as they produce good software..

 What is the other alternative???  finish high school and than look for a
 job???
 XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who
 can
 succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my
 boys...
 They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule..

 Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years???

 Just a thought...

 Sergio


Picture an arrow whistling through the wind, undisturbed, and hitting the
bullseye dead in its perfect center,

That's what your thought is to me, Sergio.

+10 !

Thank you.

--
Mario Lobo
http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br
FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)
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