Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-23 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:07:27AM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 patching/updating.  I updated my Win2K with a critical update yesterday 
 using Microsoft's online updating utility (no, not from an email link!); and 
 it trashed the OS. The repair utilities on the installation CD  have been 
 useless.  I now have to find the time to reinstall.
 
 I spent the night reviewing the list of apps I can't replace in FreeBSD.   The 
 list keeps getting smaller (along with the motivation to reinstall).

You could try running Windows under FreeBSD with VMware 2 or 3 if your
down to that few programs that don't have a replacement for. It has
downsite but it could be worth thinking about.

-- 
Alex

Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-23 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Andrew L. Gould wrote:

I do my emailing from FreeBSD; but I empathize with any Windows user's fear of 
patching/updating.  I updated my Win2K with a critical update yesterday 
using Microsoft's online updating utility (no, not from an email link!); and 
it trashed the OS. The repair utilities on the installation CD  have been 
useless.  I now have to find the time to reinstall.

I spent the night reviewing the list of apps I can't replace in FreeBSD.   The 
list keeps getting smaller (along with the motivation to reinstall).

Andrew Gould

Hmm, never had any trouble with WinXP or Win98 using Windows Update
AFAICR.  That said, I'm now running FBSD 5.1 alongside my Windows
box, the the Windows screen is *behind* me and to the right.  As I'm not
much of a gamer, and my wife/kids have XP in the living room, I've already
succumbed to the switch, and think I'm gonna like it.
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-22 Thread vizion communication
I agree that a number of people on this list have been
affected by the virus and it is really helpful of you to
have posted to the list because those infected are sending
out huge volumes of emails to some of us on the list.

I would recomend that everyone on this list checks their
system if it is vulnerable at the earliest opportunity and
remove the virus from their system. I am receiving over 100
emails a day from infected systems.

David
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 22 September 2003 08:10 am, vizion communication wrote:
 I agree that a number of people on this list have been
 affected by the virus and it is really helpful of you to
 have posted to the list because those infected are sending
 out huge volumes of emails to some of us on the list.

 I would recomend that everyone on this list checks their
 system if it is vulnerable at the earliest opportunity and
 remove the virus from their system. I am receiving over 100
 emails a day from infected systems.

I agree and I am seeing similar quanties of virus infected emails. Since 
they are arriving from sites around the world, they have to be people 
on the FreeBSD lists. You can't do anything else and write all of their 
ISPs.

The problem seem to be that a large number of people are using unpatched 
versions of Windows emailers. The fix to prevent infection by something 
as simple as previewing an email was made available at Microsoft's 
Windows update site (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com) in 2001. 

Anyone with an infected computer can find disinfection instructions and 
a Recovery program at
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibef.html

Matthew's comment about the infection rate at Symmantec still seems to 
be appropriate. I have logged more than 20 sites and I am only doing 1 
in 30+ sampling.

Kent


 David
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-22 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 22 September 2003 10:22 am, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Monday 22 September 2003 08:10 am, vizion communication wrote:
  I agree that a number of people on this list have been
  affected by the virus and it is really helpful of you to
  have posted to the list because those infected are sending
  out huge volumes of emails to some of us on the list.
 
  I would recomend that everyone on this list checks their
  system if it is vulnerable at the earliest opportunity and
  remove the virus from their system. I am receiving over 100
  emails a day from infected systems.

 I agree and I am seeing similar quanties of virus infected emails. Since
 they are arriving from sites around the world, they have to be people
 on the FreeBSD lists. You can't do anything else and write all of their
 ISPs.

 The problem seem to be that a large number of people are using unpatched
 versions of Windows emailers. The fix to prevent infection by something
 as simple as previewing an email was made available at Microsoft's
 Windows update site (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com) in 2001.

 Anyone with an infected computer can find disinfection instructions and
 a Recovery program at
 http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibef.html

 Matthew's comment about the infection rate at Symmantec still seems to
 be appropriate. I have logged more than 20 sites and I am only doing 1
 in 30+ sampling.

 Kent

  David

I do my emailing from FreeBSD; but I empathize with any Windows user's fear of 
patching/updating.  I updated my Win2K with a critical update yesterday 
using Microsoft's online updating utility (no, not from an email link!); and 
it trashed the OS. The repair utilities on the installation CD  have been 
useless.  I now have to find the time to reinstall.

I spent the night reviewing the list of apps I can't replace in FreeBSD.   The 
list keeps getting smaller (along with the motivation to reinstall).

Andrew Gould
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-22 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Kent Stewart wrote:

 I agree and I am seeing similar quanties of virus infected emails. Since
 they are arriving from sites around the world, they have to be people
 on the FreeBSD lists.

There are several mail-to-news gateways that post the contents of the
FreeBSD lists to newsgroups.  This Windows-virus-of-the-week collects
email addresses from newsgroups.

So it's not necessarily true that any list member has the virus.
Certainly anyone running an MUA on FreeBSD doesn't have it, or need to
worry about getting it.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-21 Thread Timothy Luoma
This email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) started to receive the virus not 
long after I used it to post to this freebsd-(questions|mobile).  Since 
the address was just created and has only been used for these two lists, 
it seems a good guess that someone here is infected.

I don't know if the headers would be useful in tracking down who it is 
(may be more than one even) but here they are, FWIW.

(I assume all the email addresses are forged by the virus)

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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-21 Thread Dan Langille
On 21 Sep 2003 at 8:25, Timothy Luoma wrote:

 This email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) started to receive the virus not 
 long after I used it to post to this freebsd-(questions|mobile).  Since 
 the address was just created and has only been used for these two lists, 
 it seems a good guess that someone here is infected.
 
 I don't know if the headers would be useful in tracking down who it is 
 (may be more than one even) but here they are, FWIW.

A better destination for your messages would be the respective ISPs 
rather than the list members...
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Re: Someone on list with latest virus?

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 08:25:25AM -0400, Timothy Luoma wrote:

 This email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) started to receive the virus not 
 long after I used it to post to this freebsd-(questions|mobile).  Since 
 the address was just created and has only been used for these two lists, 
 it seems a good guess that someone here is infected.
 
 I don't know if the headers would be useful in tracking down who it is 
 (may be more than one even) but here they are, FWIW.

It's an interesting virus.  Seems to hit people roughly proportionate
to their exposure on usenet / the web / IRC / mailing lists.  Which is
targetting exactly the sort of articulate, outspoken person who would
be the most likely to publicise fixes and complain to ISPs... 

Anyhow, yes, it's quite likely there are several people on these lists
who have been infected.  Then there are the people who have access to
a mail-to-news gateway carrying these lists, of which there are
several archived on Google groups.  And then there are people who have
been hit through KaZaA or IRC or through a shared disk with an
infected machine.  If any one of those happens to have your e-mail
address in a mailbox or similar file then you're going to get hit.

See:

http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32gibef.html

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Although Symantec's estimate of the number of infections is laughable)

Cheers,

Matthew

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