On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:26PM -0600, Modulok wrote:
looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually
zero design skills except keep it simple
To quote Albert Einstein, Everything should be made as simple as possible,
but
not simpler.
As far as editors and
looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually
zero design skills except keep it simple
To quote Albert Einstein, Everything should be made as simple as possible, but
not simpler.
Much of the problem with the web today is the reliance on 'designers,' who are
primarily
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:07:56PM
On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 11:19 +0530, N. Raghavendra wrote:
At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
Any guesses why things like this blowup::
!doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en
The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier
(FPI) of
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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On 5/29/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
On 5/29/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
[...]
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:52:31AM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
I suspect that using an editor that _correctly_ highlights HTML code
would solve most of your problems.
Yes, that is why I suggested tidy in addition to the other online
validators. If one's editor tool doesn't help, tidy is close
HTML. Caution, may be OT.
you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then,
'93-4, there was BR,P, B, and EM. i wrote a 2.2K-line
program to handle hi - ``hi'' and a couple other things.
the code has evolved, of course, but still works.
Not the case. I use
On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
[[ ... ]]
/* * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its
replies and threads
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:07:56PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 02:04:51PM -0700, Kent wrote:
On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:49:50PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
Questions on validation
4.
Steal a simple page that validates:
http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html
and use it as a
At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
Any guesses why things like this blowup::
!doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en
The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier
(FPI) of the DTD, i.e., the standard, that your HTML page claims to
conform
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since
'94, very
. It
is understanding how all the things work together.
Ted
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Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
Several weeks ago a friend
Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
firefox; things looked fine. I've
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
firefox;
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Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly
what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any
other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the
learning
At 2008-05-28T23:57:35-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly what
causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any other
ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning
curve. But:: if/when I come up with a better
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Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post.
Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting
and the entire response.
In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times does a
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
firefox; things looked
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She
Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the
On Thu May 29 2008 08:46:29 David Kelly wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and
On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote:
Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:52:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote:
...
memory to load all the required libs in displaying Hello World. Some
of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be
blisteringly fast in comparison unless you have
FWIW, I'Ve switch back to mutt. i can't live without vi
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30:05AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Don't bother, Gary.
The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites.
do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports??
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:38:05AM -0700, Kevin Downey wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt
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[[ ... ]]
Konq uses more or less the same rendering engine as Safari.
interesting. where is this browser in ports. locate doesnt
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:00:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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From: Kevin Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post.
Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting
and the entire
On 5/29/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
[...]
I'd be much obliged for any help here.
Konqueror says that the comment that reads
!-- click on
On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:53 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites.
do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports??
How about Plone or other Zope-based apps? Plone is in ports:
/usr/ports/www/plone3
as is Silva:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
[[ ... ]]
/*
* strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and
threads is
* different from kmail. I only use a GUI when there is a
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
On 5/29/08, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
[...]
I'd be much obliged for any help here.
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Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
you probably didn't start with the earlier
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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Chill down a bit, okay? first, (as the OP), i did
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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you probably didn't start
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