Re: [FreeBSD 7] Radeon Mobility M10/9600 + xorg 7.3 + ati/radeon driver causes complete system hang/freeze
On 3/17/08, Mark Ovens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torgeir Hoffmann wrote: [,,,] I have the following problems with my xorg 7.3 installation, even after I have pkg_delete -a, and reinstalled all with packages. The system was updated with freebsd-update from 6.3-release to 7.0-release. This sounds similar to the problem I have with 7.3 and a Radeon 8500LE card. Never had this problem with any previous version of Xorg (or XFree86). when the system hangs I can ssh(1) in from another box and find that Xorg process is sucking as much as 400% - yes four *hundred* percent - CPU ? It is holding a Giant Lock - State is *GIANT I can kill the Xorg process but on the affected box I just end up with a blank black screen so have to Ctrl-Alt_Del to reboot. The problem seems to come and go as I update installed ports. If I've got the problem then updating the ports gets rid of it (sometimes) and when the system is working a port upgrade starts it off again (sometimes). It seems to be one of the X ports being updated that is the cause but I don't know which - xorg-drivers seems a likely culprit. One thing I did do was to delete the port xf86-video-radeonhd which fixed the problem once. I don't know what installed it as a dependency but it hasn't been reinstalled - although the problem still comes and goes. I've had this on 6.3 and on 7.0 (completely clean build, not an upgrade from 6.3). As I said, this has only been a problem since u/g Xorg from 7.2-7.3 and it is becoming a PITA. I wonder if it's just that Radeon cards don't work too well with FreeBSD and/or Xorg?? Perhaps it's worth swapping to nVidia? On two of my systems (out of four) I've had a lot of problems with Xorg 7.3. My older system has run happily for a few years using the nvidia proprietary driver to drive two monitors and an old mga card to drive a third monitor. I was eventually forced to upgrade Xorg on it because so many ports couldn't be installed or updated without it. Since upgrading to X.org 7.3, the mga card is unusable and the nvidia card configuration will no longer work with dual monitors. After spending a week fighting it, I've given up on that system. It was an upgrade and there is no telling how much cruft is left over from the older nvidia driver. At the time this happened, I was preparing to move to a new system with an ATI card, so I turned my attention to the new system. I find the radeonhd driver configuration to be extremely fragile if I try to drive two monitors with it. Many configurations which should be entirely legal (e.g. specifying PreferredMode) lock up the system to the point that the only way to recover is to unplug the power. If I only had those experiences, I would conclude that Xorg 7.3 is total junk. But at home I have two systems that work fine with it. One is even using the radeonhd driver with two monitors -- a configuration similar to the one that gives me so much trouble with lockups. Overall, I think the older Xorg was much more stable and usable. I'm not at all sure the new features were worth the price. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FreeBSD 7] Radeon Mobility M10/9600 + xorg 7.3 + ati/radeon driver causes complete system hang/freeze
On beforehand, I appologize for sending a rather incomplete mail regarding this last week, I hope with this new information that I can find a clue on how to debug or solve this problem. I have the following problems with my xorg 7.3 installation, even after I have pkg_delete -a, and reinstalled all with packages. The system was updated with freebsd-update from 6.3-release to 7.0-release. My problem has the following characteristics: * Whenever I start xorg with startx and the radeon/ati-driver, the system will become unresponsive, and cold reboot is the only way to escape the lock. * xorg will start fine using the 'vesa' driver. * On a system-freeze, there is no logging - at all. Nothing in dmesg/messages or in Xorg.0.log. * I had no problems with xorg 7.2/7.3 on my 6.3-release system. * dmesg report: drm0 - Is it normal that it reports 256 MB, when I have a 64MB graphics card? For you convenience, the config-/log-files can be found at: * dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m47427876 * Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/m13673d99 * xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m52dab34b any help will be greatly appreciated! Best Regards, //Torgeir ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FreeBSD 7] Radeon Mobility M10/9600 + xorg 7.3 + ati/radeon driver causes complete system hang/freeze
Torgeir Hoffmann wrote: On beforehand, I appologize for sending a rather incomplete mail regarding this last week, I hope with this new information that I can find a clue on how to debug or solve this problem. I have the following problems with my xorg 7.3 installation, even after I have pkg_delete -a, and reinstalled all with packages. The system was updated with freebsd-update from 6.3-release to 7.0-release. This sounds similar to the problem I have with 7.3 and a Radeon 8500LE card. Never had this problem with any previous version of Xorg (or XFree86). when the system hangs I can ssh(1) in from another box and find that Xorg process is sucking as much as 400% - yes four *hundred* percent - CPU ? It is holding a Giant Lock - State is *GIANT I can kill the Xorg process but on the affected box I just end up with a blank black screen so have to Ctrl-Alt_Del to reboot. The problem seems to come and go as I update installed ports. If I've got the problem then updating the ports gets rid of it (sometimes) and when the system is working a port upgrade starts it off again (sometimes). It seems to be one of the X ports being updated that is the cause but I don't know which - xorg-drivers seems a likely culprit. One thing I did do was to delete the port xf86-video-radeonhd which fixed the problem once. I don't know what installed it as a dependency but it hasn't been reinstalled - although the problem still comes and goes. I've had this on 6.3 and on 7.0 (completely clean build, not an upgrade from 6.3). As I said, this has only been a problem since u/g Xorg from 7.2-7.3 and it is becoming a PITA. I wonder if it's just that Radeon cards don't work too well with FreeBSD and/or Xorg?? Perhaps it's worth swapping to nVidia? Don't know whether any of that helps? Regards, Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System hang on laptop suspend/resume
I was running FreeBSD 4.8 on my Sony PCG-505TR laptop for about three years until I recently upgraded to 6.1 with a clean install on a new disk drive. One aspect of FreeBSD that I really liked was that suspend-to-memory and resume worked perfectly and quickly every time, whereas when I had previously tried this with Windows it usually failed. I did not even need to run apmd or configure any suspend or resume scripts other than the normal configuration in pccard.conf for the an0 802.11 network card. Sadly, with FreeBSD 6.1, the result is often a system hang requiring a power cycle to recover. I have found that I can avoid the hang if I do two things before suspend: - switch the display from X to the console vty (which I have automated using vidcontrol as suggested in the laptop article) - manually unplug the 802.11 network card and wait for dhclient to exit before suspending, and leave the card unplugged until after resuming My question is this: How can I programmatically power down or detach the network card? ifconfig an0 down is not sufficient. I'm worried about wearing out my PC Card slot by frequently unplugging the card. On 4.8, I used pccardc power 0 0 to power down the card, but on 6.1 it results in the error message: pccardc: /dev/card0: No such file or directory In the mail archive, I saw that pccardc is not supported in NEWCARD, but the binary and man page are still included in the 6.1 release. Or is there something else I should be doing instead? Here are additional details -- - This laptop BIOS supports APM but not ACPI. - I am running apmd and have it configured to invoke rc.suspend and rc.resume, which in turn run vidcontrol. - I have two network cards: an0 and ath0. For an0, the hang occurs on resume about half the time. With ath0, it aways hangs. - The hang is indicated by a timeout on ad0 (see below). At that point, I can switch vtys among 1-8, but going to vty9 (X server) will hang. Ctrl-Alt-Delete does nothing. Return just echoes return, no login prompt (will echo more than once). - Pulling Aironet card and replugging results in: Interrupt storm detected on irq9:; throttling interrrupt source Messages on the console vty (manually copied): Dec 2 00:57:56 kao root: Received USERSUSPENDREQ Dec 2 00:57:56 kao apm: suspend an0: detached Dec 2 14:32:20 kao root: Received NORMRESUME Dec 2 14:32:20 kao apm: resumed from suspend Dec 2 14:32:20 kao dhclient[3365]: send_packet: Device not configured an0: Cisco Systems 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter at port 0x100-0x13f irq 9 function 0 config 5 on pccard0 an0: got RSSI - dBM map an0: supported rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps an0: Ethernet address: 00:40:96:32:05:b7 an0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=68041200 Messages from /var/log/messages: Dec 2 00:57:56 kao apmd[412]: apmevent 000a index 7 Dec 2 00:57:56 kao root: Received USERSUSPENDREQ Dec 2 00:57:56 kao apm: suspend Dec 2 14:32:20 kao kernel: an0: detached Dec 2 14:32:20 kao kernel: wakeup from sleeping state (slept 13:34:17) Dec 2 14:32:19 kao apmd[412]: apmevent 0003 index 8 Dec 2 14:32:20 kao root: Received NORMRESUME Dec 2 14:32:20 kao apm: resumed from suspend Dec 2 14:32:20 kao dhclient[3365]: send_packet: Device not configured Dec 2 14:54:13 kao syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Note that some log messages are written after resuming and before the hang, so ad0 is working up to the point where it gets the timeout. -- Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SYSTEM HANG - NATD running FINE
My system has recently locked up after 65 days uptime, running only natd for my local network. Natd still works fine and routes information properly - but I am no longer able to telnet or login to my machine even from a local console(alt f1-fx). After I enter my root or user name at the login - it just hangs there. When I telnet in, it does not even prompt me with a login. Anybody ever had this problem before? Any suggestions on how to recover my system without rebooting? Any help appreciated. Thanks, Ben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SYSTEM HANG - NATD running FINE
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Ben and Jen wrote: My system has recently locked up after 65 days uptime, running only natd for my local network. Natd still works fine and routes information properly - but I am no longer able to telnet or login to my machine even from a local console(alt f1-fx). After I enter my root or user name at the login - it just hangs there. When I telnet in, it does not even prompt me with a login. Anybody ever had this problem before? Any suggestions on how to recover my system without rebooting? Hi Ben, Since you are unable to get a shell, it is unlikely that you will be able to recover without rebooting. However, you can try dropping into the online Kernel debugger, to try and get more information about what is going on: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-online-ddb.html I think from there you can force a panic, which could provide you with some post-mortem information to go over: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/03/21/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Good luck, -Andy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SATA RAID0 and Plextor SATA DVD0-RW DRIVE system hang
HI I am having great difficulty with my SATA DVD-RW drive. It is a Plextor PX-716A ver 1.08 and is serial ATA seems to work/detect as acd1 fine before. However I cannot remember if i could mount it but did not try very hard and do not exactly know what i am doing with dvd-rw and FreeBSD yet. I compiled atapicam into the Kernel as per the handbook 17.5 the below related options were already there as i am running a Generic Kernel other than atapicam device scbus device da device pass device uhci device ohci device usb device umass When i try to boot with the drive plugged in the system hangs while detecting the drives. Must be reset with the drive unplugged to get fbsd back. Note i tried playing with the bios settings changing from enhanced sata to legacy and some combos of that. Also tried the the plug and play os off and then on nothing seemed to make the system boot with drive attached. I use a INTEL D925CV2 with built in raid see below about drive configuration ( this is without Plextor drive pluged in ) and a unmame output. FreeBSD rachel.computerking.ca 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Feb 9 20:37:25 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CK06020701 i386 acd0: CDRW HL-DT-ST GCE-8523B/1.01 at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 286167MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata2-master SATA150 ad6: 286167MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata3-master SATA150 ar0: 572333MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID0 (stripe 128 KB) status: READY ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY using ad6 at ata3-master cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8523B 1.01 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed am having problems with my plextor dvdr px-716a after adding apticam to the kernel as recommend in the optical drive section of the handbook I get freeze up on boot irq storms and the like have to unplug the drive in order to get thing to work anyone have this problem or is it just me. -- Computer King/CaNMail http://www.computerking.ca http://www.canmail.org Sales, Service, and Hosting Email, Data, and Web Packages Ask about web design specials Affiliates http://www.computerking.ca/pages/links/affiliates/affiliates.htm Maybe Computer Science should be in the College of Theology. -- R. S. Barton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: md0: preloaded image - system hang
Travis McChesney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to install 5.4-Release on a fairly old (still meets requirements) Compaq Presario. Using Disc 1, the system seems to boot up fine until it reaches the line: md0: Preloaded image /boot/msfroot x bytes at xx. The system then hangs with the floppy drive light on (making no noise). Not sure if there is anything I can change about my system to get it to boot and install, but I thought I'd see if anyone has come across this. Did you try another floppy? Bad media is a common cause of symptoms like this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
md0: preloaded image - system hang
I am trying to install 5.4-Release on a fairly old (still meets requirements) Compaq Presario. Using Disc 1, the system seems to boot up fine until it reaches the line: md0: Preloaded image /boot/msfroot x bytes at xx. The system then hangs with the floppy drive light on (making no noise). Not sure if there is anything I can change about my system to get it to boot and install, but I thought I'd see if anyone has come across this. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.9 disk related system hang
I have a Sun LX50 running FreeBSD 4.9. Its primary function is a Squid caching proxy. It has 2 10k RPM SCSI-3 disks, 74GB each. It has 2 processors, each a P3-1400, and the kernel is SMP enabled. The problem is that every time I start using the second disk for anything significant, like logging or caching files for squid, the system locks up after some hours or days. There are no unusual messages in the syslog, it just locks up completely and unexpectedly. It has been running fine for quite a while now with the second disk mounted, but doing nothing. Can anyone help me find the root of the problem? I don't even know how to begin to troubleshoot this. My next step was going to be to upgrade to 4.10, but I would prefer not to at this point. Thanks, Lucas --- Here is my dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #2: Tue Feb 3 16:17:11 PST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOSTNAME Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1400MHz (1396.45-MHz \ 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR, \ PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 1073676288 (1048512K bytes) avail memory = 1039577088 (1015212K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 - irq 0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 3, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee0 io0 (APIC): apic id: 4, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec0 io1 (APIC): apic id: 5, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xc0555000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 13 entries at 0xc00f3b70 npx0: math processor on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib1: ServerWorks host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 11 - irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 10 - irq 5 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 ahc0: Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapter port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xfebe- 0xfebe0fff irq 2 at device 7.0 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapter port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xfebf- 0xfebf0fff irq 5 at device 7.1 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs pcib0: ServerWorks host to PCI bridge on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 5 - irq 7 IOAPIC #1 intpin 4 - irq 9 IOAPIC #1 intpin 2 - irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 10 - irq 11 pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 fxp0: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x1400-0x143f mem \ 0xfe8a-0xfe8b,0xfe8e-0xfe8e0fff irq 7 at device 3.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:03:47:f1:72:39 inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0x1440-0x147f mem \ 0xfe86-0xfe87,0xfe88-0xfe880fff irq 9 at device 4.0 on pci0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:03:47:f1:72:3a inphy1: i82555 10/100 media interface on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: ATI Mach64-GR graphics accelerator at 12.0 irq 10 isab0: PCI to ISA bridge (vendor=1166 device=0201) at device 15.0 on \ pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: ServerWorks CSB5 ATA100 controller port 0x410-0x413,0x3a0-0x3af,0- 0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe84-0xfe840fff irq 11 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib2: ServerWorks host to PCI bridge on motherboard pci2: PCI bus on pcib2 pcib3: ServerWorks host to PCI bridge on motherboard pci3: PCI bus on pcib3 pcib4: Host to PCI bridge on motherboard pci4: PCI bus on pcib4 orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc97ff,0xc9800- 0xcafff,0xcb000-0xd0fff,0xe4000-0xe7fff on isa0 pmtimer0 on isa0 fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port not found. APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: Broken MP table detected: 8254
Re: System Hang
Nicholas Bernstein wrote:
hello all,
I'm hoping someone can give me a hand with this. I have a suspicion as
to what is causing this, but I don't want to taint any replies I get.
If any of knowledgeable folks out there could help me out, offer
possible areas to look into, better places to contact, or anything that
could possibly be helpful, I would really, really appreciate it.
thanks in advance,
Nick
Info follows:
System:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
HP Proliant DL140
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl140/index.html
FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0 standard kernel
2 xeon (hyperthreaded) processors
Problem Description:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
System becomes unresponsive and hangs. System does not respond to
keyboard, network or any other type of input.
Error Message:
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panic: Assertion TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td) failed at
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:783 at line 783 in file:
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c
cpuid=1
Debugger(panic)
Spin lick sched lock held by 0x617eb00 for 5
Related info:
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/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:
...
770 /*
771 * Abort a thread as if an interrupt had occured. Only abort
772 * interruptable waits (unfortunately it isn't safe to abort
others).
773 *
774 * XXX: What in the world does the comment below mean?
775 * Also, whatever the signal code does...
776 */
777 void
778 sleepq_abort(struct thread *td)
779 {
780 void *wchan;
781
782 mtx_assert(sched_lock, MA_OWNED);
783 MPASS(TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td));
784 MPASS(td-td_flags TDF_SINTR);
785
786 /*
787 * If the TDF_TIMEOUT flag is set, just leave. A
788 * timeout is scheduled anyhow.
789 */
790 if (td-td_flags TDF_TIMEOUT)
791 return;
792
793 CTR3(KTR_PROC, sleepq_abort: thread %p (pid %d, %s),
td,
794 td-td_proc-p_pid, td-td_proc-p_comm);
795 wchan = td-td_wchan;
796 mtx_unlock_spin(sched_lock);
797 sleepq_remove(td, wchan);
798 mtx_lock_spin(sched_lock);
799 }
Also, in order for the machine to detect it's broadcom 5700 network
cards, I had to the line
acpi_load=no
to my /boot/loader.conf. Upon reboot the network cards show up in an
ifconfig and work perfectly.
Possible references:
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This isn't the exact same error, but it's the closest thing I could find
to my error:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-March/022633.html
This error is also pretty close, but not the same thing:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%27panic:+Assertion+TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td)+failed+at%27hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offselm=200405182105.04275.thierry%40herbelot.comrnum=1
. . .
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
. . .
I wonder ... why do want to run CURRENT on a machine like that? It's the
bleeding edge source code, which is unstable most of the times. You
might want to consider running 4.9 on that machine, which is the
production release. You can try 5.2.1 as well, but it still falls under
the unstable branch.
So in other words, post your error at the CURRENT mailing list, and
switch back to 4.9. I think you will solve many problems with that.
Cheers,
Jorn
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Re: System Hang - Found word(s) list error remove XXX in the Text body.
Nicholas Bernstein wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 00:06, Jorn Argelo wrote: Nicholas Bernstein wrote: :: snip :: I wonder ... why do want to run CURRENT on a machine like that? It's the bleeding edge source code, which is unstable most of the times. You might want to consider running 4.9 on that machine, which is the production release. You can try 5.2.1 as well, but it still falls under the unstable branch. So in other words, post your error at the CURRENT mailing list, and switch back to 4.9. I think you will solve many problems with that. Cheers, Jorn Glad you pointed that out; I intended to be running release, as someone on irc stated that 5.2.1 did not have a stable branch as of yet I assumed that running release would be OK. I think it got converted to CURRENT when I did a cvsup to make everything up to date. By specifying '*default release-cvs tag-.' would that default to current? Thanks, I appreciate the advice, Nick I believe it's set to 4.9 by default, but I'm not sure. Anyway, you shouldn't do a downgrade with sources. 4.9 is very different when comparing it with 5.2.1. Perhaps it's possible, but I wouldn't put too high hopes in that. You should just download the 4.9 CD and reinstall your machine completely to make sure your machine will be running smoothly. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Hang
hello all,
I'm hoping someone can give me a hand with this. I have a suspicion as
to what is causing this, but I don't want to taint any replies I get.
If any of knowledgeable folks out there could help me out, offer
possible areas to look into, better places to contact, or anything that
could possibly be helpful, I would really, really appreciate it.
thanks in advance,
Nick
Info follows:
System:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
HP Proliant DL140
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantdl140/index.html
FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0 standard kernel
2 xeon (hyperthreaded) processors
Problem Description:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
System becomes unresponsive and hangs. System does not respond to
keyboard, network or any other type of input.
Error Message:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
panic: Assertion TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td) failed at
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:783 at line 783 in file:
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c
cpuid=1
Debugger(panic)
Spin lick sched lock held by 0x617eb00 for 5
Related info:
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/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c:
...
770 /*
771 * Abort a thread as if an interrupt had occured. Only abort
772 * interruptable waits (unfortunately it isn't safe to abort
others).
773 *
774 * XXX: What in the world does the comment below mean?
775 * Also, whatever the signal code does...
776 */
777 void
778 sleepq_abort(struct thread *td)
779 {
780 void *wchan;
781
782 mtx_assert(sched_lock, MA_OWNED);
783 MPASS(TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td));
784 MPASS(td-td_flags TDF_SINTR);
785
786 /*
787 * If the TDF_TIMEOUT flag is set, just leave. A
788 * timeout is scheduled anyhow.
789 */
790 if (td-td_flags TDF_TIMEOUT)
791 return;
792
793 CTR3(KTR_PROC, sleepq_abort: thread %p (pid %d, %s),
td,
794 td-td_proc-p_pid, td-td_proc-p_comm);
795 wchan = td-td_wchan;
796 mtx_unlock_spin(sched_lock);
797 sleepq_remove(td, wchan);
798 mtx_lock_spin(sched_lock);
799 }
Also, in order for the machine to detect it's broadcom 5700 network
cards, I had to the line
acpi_load=no
to my /boot/loader.conf. Upon reboot the network cards show up in an
ifconfig and work perfectly.
Possible references:
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This isn't the exact same error, but it's the closest thing I could find
to my error:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-March/022633.html
This error is also pretty close, but not the same thing:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%27panic:+Assertion+TD_ON_SLEEPQ(td)+failed+at%27hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offselm=200405182105.04275.thierry%40herbelot.comrnum=1
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Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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Re: System hang when installing 5.1
When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System hang when installing 5.1
I have flashed BIOS to latest version - no change. A Google search located another person with the same computer and problem as I. His lockup was while installing RedHat Linux. I post a reply below: --- The OS should either be built with USB keyboard support so --- that when the USB host controller driver disables legacy --- emulation you still have a working keyboard, or the OS --- should be built with _NO_ USB support, so that the BIOS --- will continue providing legacy emulation support for your --- keyboard mouse. Does this make sense? If so, how can I get an updated ISO image to begin my installation? I do not have any working FreeBSD systems, so can not build the kernel myself. Thanks for the help! Thor From: Aaron Myles Landwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:13:20 - (GMT) When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, youll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System hang when installing 5.1
Can't help you there...I know on freebsd 4.8 after the cd boots you can configure some hardware options(not exactly sure which), in 5 during initial cd boot you can't. Dunno how thats going to help you seeing that the cd hangs before you reach that point...maybe try changing options in cmos setup.. -aaron[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have flashed BIOS to latest version - no change. A Google search located another person with the same computer and problem as I. His lockup was while installing RedHat Linux. I post a reply below: --- The OS should either be built with USB keyboard support so --- that when the USB host controller driver disables legacy --- emulation you still have a working keyboard, or the OS --- should be built with _NO_ USB support, so that the BIOS --- will continue providing legacy emulation support for your --- keyboard mouse. Does this make sense? If so, how can I get an updated ISO image to begin my installation? I do not have any working FreeBSD systems, so can not build the kernel myself. Thanks for the help! Thor From: Aaron Myles Landwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:13:20 - (GMT) When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: System hang when installing 5.1
You do know that the 5.x versions of FBSD are the development versions. It is not uncommon to find bugs in the development version. As an non-developer (author of code) You should be using version 4.9 the current production version. You stand good odds that the problem you are having with 5.1 will not occur with 4.9 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thor Anderson Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 I have flashed BIOS to latest version - no change. A Google search located another person with the same computer and problem as I. His lockup was while installing RedHat Linux. I post a reply below: --- The OS should either be built with USB keyboard support so --- that when the USB host controller driver disables legacy --- emulation you still have a working keyboard, or the OS --- should be built with _NO_ USB support, so that the BIOS --- will continue providing legacy emulation support for your --- keyboard mouse. Does this make sense? If so, how can I get an updated ISO image to begin my installation? I do not have any working FreeBSD systems, so can not build the kernel myself. Thanks for the help! Thor From: Aaron Myles Landwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:13:20 - (GMT) When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you'll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: System hang when installing 5.1 AND 4.9.1
Thank you for your observation. As I pointed out in my original message, the problem also occurs with FreeBSD 4.9.1. Worse, no boot message at all is displayed by that version before the system hangs. While I would be happy to go with either version, I am now working with 5.1 for two reasons. First, it is the only commercial release I could purchase in a boxed set at CompUSA. Second, at least it provides a boot message before hanging my system which may make debugging easier. Thor From: fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:52:45 -0500 You do know that the 5.x versions of FBSD are the development versions. It is not uncommon to find bugs in the development version. As an non-developer (author of code) You should be using version 4.9 the current production version. You stand good odds that the problem you are having with 5.1 will not occur with 4.9 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thor Anderson Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 I have flashed BIOS to latest version - no change. A Google search located another person with the same computer and problem as I. His lockup was while installing RedHat Linux. I post a reply below: --- The OS should either be built with USB keyboard support so --- that when the USB host controller driver disables legacy --- emulation you still have a working keyboard, or the OS --- should be built with _NO_ USB support, so that the BIOS --- will continue providing legacy emulation support for your --- keyboard mouse. Does this make sense? If so, how can I get an updated ISO image to begin my installation? I do not have any working FreeBSD systems, so can not build the kernel myself. Thanks for the help! Thor From: Aaron Myles Landwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:13:20 - (GMT) When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you'll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: System hang when installing 5.1
However, My NIC does not work with 4.x; thus, I am forced to use the development branch of freebsd. And yes I do know the below. -aaron[EMAIL PROTECTED] You do know that the 5.x versions of FBSD are the development versions. It is not uncommon to find bugs in the development version. As an non-developer (author of code) You should be using version 4.9 the current production version. You stand good odds that the problem you are having with 5.1 will not occur with 4.9 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thor Anderson Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 I have flashed BIOS to latest version - no change. A Google search located another person with the same computer and problem as I. His lockup was while installing RedHat Linux. I post a reply below: --- The OS should either be built with USB keyboard support so --- that when the USB host controller driver disables legacy --- emulation you still have a working keyboard, or the OS --- should be built with _NO_ USB support, so that the BIOS --- will continue providing legacy emulation support for your --- keyboard mouse. Does this make sense? If so, how can I get an updated ISO image to begin my installation? I do not have any working FreeBSD systems, so can not build the kernel myself. Thanks for the help! Thor From: Aaron Myles Landwehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System hang when installing 5.1 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:13:20 - (GMT) When i first attempted to install freebsd via cds(4.8 annd 5.1) My pc would hang on boot exactly like yours(at the same point). I attempted to flash the bios on the pc with a newer version. After the update i had no problems booting 4.8 or 5.1. I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System hang when installing 5.1
I am attempting to install 5.1 on two identical IBM NetVista Model 6645 W2U legacy-free computers. When booting from the distribution CD, both computers appear to hang immediately after to boot loader is located: --- CD Loader 1.01 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found (no further activity) --- I am installing FreeBSD 5.1 which was purchased in the boxed Power Pak. Previously, I attempted to download the ISO for 4.9.1 and it hung without any message at all. The system is able to successfully boot and begin the installation of other operating systems (various Microsoft OS's). Being legacy-free, the system is a bit unusual. It has no PS/2, serial or parallel ports. Further, it does not have a floppy drive. The only drives it has are CD ROM and a 7.x GB hard drive. The only connectors are (5) USB, (1) PCI ethernet (Intel chipset), VGA, and sound. When booting the FreeBSD 5.1 CD, I have only a VGA monitor and a Microsoft USB keyboard. I don't know what additional information I can provide. If you need more - just ask. Thanks in advance for your help. _ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All around system hang
(I mentioned this earlier on the newbies list, but I was informed it was more of a questions question) I have FreeBSD 5.1 installed on my box at home. Install worked smoothly the second time, we just kind of messed up because it had been awhile since my buddy installed his. Well anywho, it works... sorta. The thing is this: after a number of hours of non-use, the machine just quits responding. A movement of the mouse, a few key presses on the keyboard don't help. I restart the machine and it during the initial boot when I can access the BIOS, the input devices work fine. Once it reaches the bootloader, the keyboard doesn't respond. So I turn it off, unplug both keyboard and mouse (both of which are ps/2, btw) and then turn the machine back on. It works after that. However, after several hours of non-use, it does the same thing over again. I would consider myself an intermediate when using Linux (RedHat 5.x-7.x) and I've printed off the a good amount of the manual from the FreeBSD website. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. --Steve-0 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
