Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 07:47:48PM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote:
> 
> As I said, Yahoo are the one big company I remember being cited as using a
> BSD. My point was not that "Yahoo does not give back to the FreeBSD
> project," but that the BSD licence *allows* them not to give back in a way
> that the GPL does not allow (say) Google not to give back to the Linux
> project(s).

If I understand what Yahoo! is doing with FreeBSD, GPL totally permits.
GPL only requires publishing the changes if one publishes the binaries.
Yahoo!'s uses are internal so for example, Yahoo! would not have to
"give back" any changes to gcc so long as they do not release their gcc
to anyone else.

The big advantage for Yahoo! to contribute changes back into FreeBSD is
that Yahoo! doesn't have to maintain a totally separate branch, and
doesn't have to deal with reconciling the enhancements from others.

As a mere user I am very thankful for Yahoo! and Apple's contributions
toward the advancement of FreeBSD.

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Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:57:32AM -0700, Andy Ruhl wrote:
> On 8/31/06, Gilles Gravier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Ahem... so no Apache... but why games, X11, compiler?
> 
> So don't install the games set, the X set, or the comp set if you
> don't want that stuff.
> 
> I think the point I'm trying to make is, apache is certainly not
> something *most* people will use.

When Andy first said "no Apache" I mistakenly heard him to say "in the
kernel". Have heard others wanting to move http servers into the kernel
for (hopefully) better performance. IMHO this is the Microsoft Mistake,
to throw everything in including the kitchen sink.

OTOH a function such as sendfile() when integrated into the kernel can
know more about optimizing buffers, and is a good compromise.

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