Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Robert
Greetings

On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am
unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried both
Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without HAL
enabled.

I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This
problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it looks

[robert@dell64] ~ mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash
[robert@dell64] ~ ls -l Flash
total 128
drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android
drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan  6  1980 LOST.DIR
drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll
drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader
[robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy

If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally. 

Is anyone else seeing this?

TIA

Robert
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

Greetings

 On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am
 unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried both
 Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without HAL
 enabled.

 I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This
 problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it looks

 [robert@dell64] ~ mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash
 [robert@dell64] ~ ls -l Flash
 total 128
 drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android
 drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan  6  1980 LOST.DIR
 drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll
 drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy

 If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally.

 Is anyone else seeing this?

 TIA


Are you on the drive or do you have files open from the flash drive? Try
this:

lsof /home/robert/Flash

or

lsof /dev/da6s1

It will tell you what files are using the device, you should close all files
before unmounting as well as making sure your not in /home/robert/Flash/ or
some subdir of ~/Flash.

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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Robert
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:26:00 -0500
Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Greetings
 
  On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am
  unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried
  both Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without
  HAL enabled.
 
  I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This
  problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it
  looks
 
  [robert@dell64] ~ mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash
  [robert@dell64] ~ ls -l Flash
  total 128
  drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android
  drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan  6  1980 LOST.DIR
  drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll
  drwxr-xr-x  1 robert  robert  32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader
  [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
  [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 
  If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally.
 
  Is anyone else seeing this?
 
  TIA
 
 
 Are you on the drive or do you have files open from the flash drive?
 Try this:
 
 lsof /home/robert/Flash
 
 or
 
 lsof /dev/da6s1
 
 It will tell you what files are using the device, you should close
 all files before unmounting as well as making sure your not
 in /home/robert/Flash/ or some subdir of ~/Flash.
 
Chris

Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then
tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the ls
command.

[robert@dell64] ~ lsof Flash
[robert@dell64] ~ lsof /dev/da6s1
[robert@dell64] ~ 
[robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[robert@dell64] ~ 
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then
  tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the ls
 command.

 [robert@dell64] ~ lsof Flash
 [robert@dell64] ~ lsof /dev/da6s1
 [robert@dell64] ~
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~



For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work?

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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Robert
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:25 -0500
Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then
   tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the ls
  command.
 
  [robert@dell64] ~ lsof Flash
  [robert@dell64] ~ lsof /dev/da6s1
  [robert@dell64] ~
  [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
  [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
  [robert@dell64] ~
 
 
 
 For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work?
 
[robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[robert@dell64] ~ 

Should have mentioned...been there, done that ...tried and failed.
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Robert
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:48:40 -0800
Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:25 -0500
 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
 
  On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net
  wrote:
  
  Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and
  then
tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the
   ls command.
  
   [robert@dell64] ~ lsof Flash
   [robert@dell64] ~ lsof /dev/da6s1
   [robert@dell64] ~
   [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
   umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
   [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
   umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
   [robert@dell64] ~
  
  
  
  For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work?
  
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ 
 
 Should have mentioned...been there, done that ...tried and failed.

Sorry. Sent the wrong copy  paste entry last time
[root@dell64] ~# umount /dev/da6s1
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[root@dell64] ~# umount /home/robert/Flash
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
[root@dell64] ~# 


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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Robert
On 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:

  [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 
 Try umount -f
 
 The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the
 device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it.
 
 Regards,
 John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for
 Dummies, Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.
 http://jl.ly

That works!
I did not have to do that before the recent updates to XFCE4 and Xorg
but as long as I can umount, I'm happy.

Thank you John
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

On 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -
 John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:

   [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
   umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 
  Try umount -f
 
  The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the
  device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it.
 
  Regards,
  John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for
  Dummies, Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.
  http://jl.ly

 That works!
 I did not have to do that before the recent updates to XFCE4 and Xorg
 but as long as I can umount, I'm happy.

 Thank you John


'umount -f' is dangerous, while it worked in your case, truly, make sure you
don't have any open files in the future, just to ensure no loss of files or
filesytem corruption.

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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread John Levine
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy

Try umount -f

The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the
device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it.

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Jason C. Wells

On 03/12/11 09:51, Chris Brennan wrote:
'umount -f' is dangerous, while it worked in your case, truly, make 
sure you

don't have any open files in the future, just to ensure no loss of files or
filesytem corruption

Run sync before umount -f to flush write caches.

Later,
Jason
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Tim Dunphy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy


have you tried lazy unmount?

umount -l /dev/da6s1

if you have root access you should su/sudo to that before trying this command.

regards,
tim

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote:

 Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then
  tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the ls
 command.

 [robert@dell64] ~ lsof Flash
 [robert@dell64] ~ lsof /dev/da6s1
 [robert@dell64] ~
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount /dev/da6s1
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy
 [robert@dell64] ~



 For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work?

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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread perryh
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
  [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
  umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy

 ... The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully
 has the device open just in case you might want to ask questions
 about it.

I that case, shouldn't lsof(8) have reported something?
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread Warren Block

On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Robert wrote:


On 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:


[robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy


Try umount -f

The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the
device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it.


That works!
I did not have to do that before the recent updates to XFCE4 and Xorg
but as long as I can umount, I'm happy.


Saw the same thing here, also with xfce.  lsof reports nothing open on 
either the mountpoint or the device.


fstat blames gam_server:

% fstat /home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage/
USER CMD  PID   FD MOUNT  INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W NAME
wblock   gam_server  1409  776 /usr/home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage 
244864 drwx--4096  r  /home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage/
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread John R. Levine


... The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully
has the device open just in case you might want to ask questions
about it.


I that case, shouldn't lsof(8) have reported something?


Yes.  It always did for me.

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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread perryh
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 lsof reports nothing open on either the mountpoint or the device.

 fstat blames gam_server:

 % fstat /home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage/
 USER CMD  PID   FD MOUNT  INUM MODE SZ|DV R/W NAME
 wblock   gam_server  1409  776 /usr/home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage 
 244864 drwx--4096  r  /home/wblock/Desktop/removable-storage/

Does this show a bug in lsof(8), or an intentional difference
between it and fstat?
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Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread Laszlo Antal
Hi,
I have FreeBSD 4.10 installed.
When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
What I'm doing wrong??
Thank you for all the help.
Laszlo
--lantal
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Re: Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:22:12AM -0700, Laszlo Antal wrote:

 When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom

Verb. Sap.  Make that:

# mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0c /cdrom

For best results, set up all of the options etc. in /etc/fstab, and
then just use:

# mount /cdrom

 everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
 But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
 I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
 If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
 What I'm doing wrong??

You've either got a process with it's current working directory
somewhere under /cdrom, or you've got a process with an open file
descriptor (or a memory map) on one of the files on the CD.

Try using:

# fstat -f /cdrom

to see if you can identify the culprits.  Then either close them down,
or CD to elsewhere in the filesystem if it's an interactive session.
Once the CD Rom is idle, you should be able to dismount it easily.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread Eric Crist
On Oct 13, 2004, at 1:29 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 11:22:12AM -0700, Laszlo Antal wrote:
When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
Verb. Sap.  Make that:
# mount -t cd9660 -o ro /dev/acd0c /cdrom
For best results, set up all of the options etc. in /etc/fstab, and
then just use:
# mount /cdrom
everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
What I'm doing wrong??
You've either got a process with it's current working directory
somewhere under /cdrom, or you've got a process with an open file
descriptor (or a memory map) on one of the files on the CD.
Try using:
# fstat -f /cdrom
to see if you can identify the culprits.  Then either close them down,
or CD to elsewhere in the filesystem if it's an interactive session.
Once the CD Rom is idle, you should be able to dismount it easily.
To elaborate on what Matthew was saying, if you cd /cdrom once it's 
mounted, and you try to unmount, you're going to get an error.  I 
always make certain to cd back home and the unmount the CD.  You can't 
unmount a device that you're currently 'on.'

HTH
-
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Re: Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread W. D.
At 13:22 10/13/2004, Laszlo Antal wrote:
Hi,

I have FreeBSD 4.10 installed.
When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
What I'm doing wrong??

Thank you for all the help.

Laszlo

This can happen if your present working directory is

/cdrom

Just switch directories:

cd /

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Re: Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread terry tyson
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:22:12 -0700, Laszlo Antal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have FreeBSD 4.10 installed.
 When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
 everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
 But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
 I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
 If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
 What I'm doing wrong??
 
 Thank you for all the help.
 
 Laszlo
 
Try
# umount /dev/acd0c
HTH
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Re: Unable to umount Cdrom drive.

2004-10-13 Thread Randy Grafton
Mike Jeays wrote:
On Wed, 2004-10-13 at 14:22, Laszlo Antal wrote:
 

Hi,
I have FreeBSD 4.10 installed.
When I mount the cdrom with #mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom
everything works fine.I can get to my ports and everything
But when I want to swap cds and I type #umount /cdrom
I get this error message:: Unable to umount /cdrom, Device is busy.
If I do the umont from KDE I get the same error message.
What I'm doing wrong??
Thank you for all the help.
Laszlo
--lantal
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I use a script eject, as follows. It CDs back to my home directory,
and then ejects the CD. Lazy but effective.
#!/bin/sh
cd $HOME
umount /cdrom
cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0c eject

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Most of the time this message pops up because either you are in the 
/cdrom (mounted) directory or a file form that directory is still in use.
The 'eject' script is a pretty good idea.

-Randy
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