Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On 14/02/2012 05:12, Bernt Hansson wrote: Is that rebuild as in cd /usr/src make buildworld or cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make Either of those should do it. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On 14/02/2012 08:05, Bernt Hansson wrote: I have rebuilt and installed world, but no cigar. Feb 14 08:50:40 reader sendmail[1147]: q1E7oe7l001147: to=b...@bananmonarki.se, ctladdr=bernt (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30064, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (q1E7oevk001148 Message accepted for delivery) Feb 14 08:50:41 reader sm-mta[1150]: STARTTLS=client, relay=my.isp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Feb 14 08:50:47 reader sm-mta[1150]: q1E7oevk001148: to=b...@bananmonarki.se, ctladdr=bernt@fqdn (1001/1001), delay=00:00:07, xdelay=00:00:07, mailer=relay, pri=30391, relay=my.isp.com. [x.x.x.x], dsn=5.7.1, stat=Service unavailable Feb 14 08:50:47 reader sm-mta[1150]: q1E7oevk001148: q1E7olvk001150: DSN: Service unavailable Look at the output of ldd /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail If there's no mention of sasl2 there, then your modifications to the build process would seem to have failed. Otherwise, it's a configuration problem and you need to double check /etc/mail/$(hostname).mc and your client auth data. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:04+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: On 2012-02-14 08:02, Josh Tolbert wrote: On 2/13/2012 11:12 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: Thank you for your answer. I wrote this ages ago and it's still valid. You can ignore the IMAP stuff if you like. :) Well, no cigar for me. I'm leaning at this line. And I think it is somehow involed in all this mess sm-mta[37453]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.isp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 I'm sorry for jumping into this thread, but verify=FAIL is expected unless you have your ISP's certificate chain stored in the appropriate directory with the appropriate file names. /etc/ssl/certs would be a good place to store the certificates. A command like this one can be used to generate the hashed file names: ln -s certfile `openssl x509 -noout -hash certfile`.0 Any idea about that? The isp does support STARTTLS. telnet smtp.isp.com 25 Trying x.x.x.x... Connected to smtp.bredband2.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 smtp.isp.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) ehlo localhost 250-smtp.isp.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 10240 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250 DSN starttls 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html That is a good site. Learnt me how to build sendmail at least. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:11+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: On 2012-02-14 10:43, Trond Endrestøl wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:04+0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: On 2012-02-14 08:02, Josh Tolbert wrote: On 2/13/2012 11:12 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: Thank you for your answer. I wrote this ages ago and it's still valid. You can ignore the IMAP stuff if you like. :) Well, no cigar for me. I'm leaning at this line. And I think it is somehow involed in all this mess sm-mta[37453]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.isp.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 I'm sorry for jumping into this thread, Don't be sorry for that. but verify=FAIL is expected unless you have your ISP's certificate chain stored in the appropriate directory with the appropriate file names. I do not have a certificate from the isp. My tought was more in line of MY sendmail is sending starttls first thing before auth login. Actually, this makes sense. It seems appropriate to establish an encrypted connection before sending the username and password. A parallel would be SSH. At the same time the use of SSL/TLS makes it harder to debug what's going on. Then postfix gets confused. It sounds strange, but there's a slight chance something is odd at the ISP's end. Possible scenario? I don't have any more input at the moment. The next step would be to establish a dialog with your ISP and persua^Wask them to investigate the matter further. /etc/ssl/certs would be a good place to store the certificates. A command like this one can be used to generate the hashed file names: ln -s certfile `openssl x509 -noout -hash certfile`.0 Any idea about that? The isp does support STARTTLS. telnet smtp.isp.com 25 Trying x.x.x.x... Connected to smtp.isp.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 smtp.isp.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu) ehlo localhost 250-smtp.isp.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 10240 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-8BITMIME 250 DSN starttls 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html That is a good site. Learnt me how to build sendmail at least. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. dir. 61 14 54 39, | Office.: +47 61 14 54 39, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 06:49:52AM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: 2012-02-13 17:35, Nikola Pavlović skrev: There are lightweight MTAs just for this purpose, I use mail/msmtp and it works great with multiple accounts. Usually, this is much simpler to set up than using a real MTA like Sendmail or Postfix. If it is simple then it's no fun ;) Heh, true that. -- Without ice cream life and fame are meaningless. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Using sendmail as a client with auth
Hello list! Is this is OT then i'm sorry. Trying to get sendmail act as a mua, following this tutorial http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Scroll down a bit to Using send Is it really necessary to install cycrus-sasl2? How do one make sendmail to pick sasl2 up when building sendmail. Is there a make.conf line I must add? When telnetting auth works but using telnet to send mail has a very low WAF. I've installed cyrus-sasl2 but then what. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On 13/02/2012 15:08, Bernt Hansson wrote: Is this is OT then i'm sorry. Trying to get sendmail act as a mua, following this tutorial http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Scroll down a bit to Using send Is it really necessary to install cycrus-sasl2? How do one make sendmail to pick sasl2 up when building sendmail. Is there a make.conf line I must add? When telnetting auth works but using telnet to send mail has a very low WAF. I've installed cyrus-sasl2 but then what. Yes -- you do need cyrus-sasl2 for this purpose. To build sendmail with SASL, either use the ports version in mail/sendmail, where you can select SASL as one of the options, or add: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 to /etc/make.conf -- see /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf for more details. This will give you a SASL-enabled base system sendmail once you rebuild it. Note that the second choice makes your base system dependent on stuff external to it, which may or may not be desirable. Oh, and before anyone else chimes in with a knee-jerk reaction about using sendmail: there are other MTAs that can provide this functionality. As an alternative, either postfix or exim could do what you want too. Sendmail works just fine for me though. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 03:28:45PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 13/02/2012 15:08, Bernt Hansson wrote: Is this is OT then i'm sorry. Trying to get sendmail act as a mua, following this tutorial http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Scroll down a bit to Using send Is it really necessary to install cycrus-sasl2? How do one make sendmail to pick sasl2 up when building sendmail. Is there a make.conf line I must add? When telnetting auth works but using telnet to send mail has a very low WAF. I've installed cyrus-sasl2 but then what. Yes -- you do need cyrus-sasl2 for this purpose. To build sendmail with SASL, either use the ports version in mail/sendmail, where you can select SASL as one of the options, or add: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 to /etc/make.conf -- see /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf for more details. This will give you a SASL-enabled base system sendmail once you rebuild it. Note that the second choice makes your base system dependent on stuff external to it, which may or may not be desirable. Oh, and before anyone else chimes in with a knee-jerk reaction about using sendmail: there are other MTAs that can provide this functionality. As an alternative, either postfix or exim could do what you want too. Sendmail works just fine for me though. If I understood Bernt correctly, he wants to use it to relay mail to some remote MTA (ISP's or similar). There are lightweight MTAs just for this purpose, I use mail/msmtp and it works great with multiple accounts. Usually, this is much simpler to set up than using a real MTA like Sendmail or Postfix. Not that I have anything against using Sendmail and friends for this purpose. Just my $0.02. ;) -- news: gotcha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
2012-02-13 16:28, Matthew Seaman skrev: Thank you for your answer. On 13/02/2012 15:08, Bernt Hansson wrote: Is this is OT then i'm sorry. Trying to get sendmail act as a mua, following this tutorial http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Scroll down a bit to Using send Is it really necessary to install cycrus-sasl2? How do one make sendmail to pick sasl2 up when building sendmail. Is there a make.conf line I must add? When telnetting auth works but using telnet to send mail has a very low WAF. I've installed cyrus-sasl2 but then what. Yes -- you do need cyrus-sasl2 for this purpose. To build sendmail with SASL, either use the ports version in mail/sendmail, where you can select SASL as one of the options, or add: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 to /etc/make.conf -- see /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf for more details. This will give you a SASL-enabled base system sendmail once you rebuild it. Is that rebuild as in cd /usr/src make buildworld or cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make Note that the second choice makes your base system dependent on stuff external to it, which may or may not be desirable. Oh, and before anyone else chimes in with a knee-jerk reaction about using sendmail: there are other MTAs that can provide this functionality. As an alternative, either postfix or exim could do what you want too. Sendmail works just fine for me though. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
2012-02-13 17:35, Nikola Pavlović skrev: If I understood Bernt correctly, he wants to use it to relay mail to some remote MTA (ISP's or similar) That is correct. There are lightweight MTAs just for this purpose, I use mail/msmtp and it works great with multiple accounts. Usually, this is much simpler to set up than using a real MTA like Sendmail or Postfix. If it is simple then it's no fun ;) Not that I have anything against using Sendmail and friends for this purpose. Just my $0.02. ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using sendmail as a client with auth
On 2/13/2012 11:12 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: Thank you for your answer. I wrote this ages ago and it's still valid. You can ignore the IMAP stuff if you like. :) http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html Cheers, Josh -- Josh Tolbert h...@puresimplicity.net || http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/ Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. -- Helen Keller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
freebsd using sendmail with tls
i know, slightly off topic, but is *on* a freebsd server... right? my smtp is the only remaining part of my email system, that has no encryption options, and i think i would like to add tls (even tho i rarely send smtp mail from outside my lan). my setup is right now, fairly basic (only includes spamassassin, sasl2, and procmail). even tho i dont much about it, i say tls instead of ssl, as i have a few outlook clients, that would surely annoy me 'do you really want to use this certificate', and it would surely be each time i sent a mail. im also assuming that hopefully tls might not do this. before i spend hours and hours googling out my instructions on how to so do, does the tls session operate over the standard port 25, or is this what is referred to as the smtps port? and if so, can the server accept either version over the same port? thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd using sendmail with tls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jonathan Horne wrote: i know, slightly off topic, but is *on* a freebsd server... right? my smtp is the only remaining part of my email system, that has no encryption options, and i think i would like to add tls (even tho i rarely send smtp mail from outside my lan). my setup is right now, fairly basic (only includes spamassassin, sasl2, and procmail). even tho i dont much about it, i say tls instead of ssl, as i have a few outlook clients, that would surely annoy me 'do you really want to use this certificate', and it would surely be each time i sent a mail. im also assuming that hopefully tls might not do this. Adding TLS / SSL capability to the stock FreeBSD sendmail is easy. You need something like the following in your /etc/mail/$(hostname).cf: define(`CERT_DIR', `MAIL_SETTINGS_DIR`'certs')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH', `CERT_DIR')dnl define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/cacert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/key.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/cert.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/key.pem')dnl This defines two keys and certs for sendmail to use -- one set for where sendmail is the server and the other for where it is the client. As shown, you can use the same key and cert for either role, and it will work pretty well all the time. Occasionally however you may run into systems that get snotty about the distinction between client and server certs -- in that case, the STARTTLS negociation would fail and you'ld probably end up sending the message in plain text. That's not a huge disadvantage given that the majority of mail systems on the net don't offer the possibility of TLS in any case. Unlike eg. HTTPS, there's no big thing about buying a server cert signed by one of the well known CAs -- TLS is more about anti-snooping than assurance of the other parties identity. While you can get e-mail certs from, eg. Thawte for free, they are generally aimed at use in e-mail client applications. E-mail servers almost exclusively use self-signed certificates. To generate a self-signed cert, you can follow the instructions here: http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/other/cagreg.html That's a very basic set of instructions. There are some more expansive general instructions on setting up TLS at: http://aput.net/~jheiss/sendmail/tlsandrelay.shtml You don't need to worry about the section of the instructions about compiling sendmail with SSL support -- that's all already enabled in the system sendmail. before i spend hours and hours googling out my instructions on how to so do, does the tls session operate over the standard port 25, or is this what is referred to as the smtps port? and if so, can the server accept either version over the same port? E-mails generally use the 'STARTTLS' approach -- that is, you make an initial unencrypted connection on the usual port 25 and then turn that into an encrypted connection over the same port numbers. There is an alternative approach using port 465, where encryption is assumed from the very beginning (much more like how HTTPS works) This is not used by the majority of MTAs out there on the 'net -- I believe it exists to support certain client software that can't do STARTTLS when submitting new messages. If you're using eg. Thunderbird, then it supports STARTTLS perfectly well and you only need port 25 -- possibly port 587 if you want to be compliant with RFC 2476. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHNdqx8Mjk52CukIwRCLyZAJ9pDb0/8y7txGPniAdRdvQrRS7rogCdHXth ri700SbDqcCw0lOL9KDggd8= =sozL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
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Subject: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
Wrote these words of wisdom:
I am not sure if this is possible or not. Is it possible to add custom
'X-' headers to mail using Sendmail? For instance, suppose I wanted to add
the Habeas Headers http://www.habeas.com/ to all my outgoing email. Is
it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my
MUA?
I noticed on the Habeas site that there was a configuration for Exim, if
that means anything.
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Well, to answer my own question, I found out that I could use LOCAL_CONFIG
along with the 'H' macro to add the headers in the {domain}.mc file.
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RE: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
Yes it is, to do this you use a milter program.
You can write one or perhaps use this one:
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_mimedefang.php
which has the capability to add boilerplate. (I don't know if it
can add your x-header where you want it, though)
Ted
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I am not sure if this is possible or not. Is it possible to add custom
'X-' headers to mail using Sendmail? For instance, suppose I
wanted to add
the Habeas Headers http://www.habeas.com/ to all my outgoing
email. Is
it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my
MUA?
I noticed on the Habeas site that there was a configuration for
Exim, if
that means anything.
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Re: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
On Monday, December 26, 2005 5:29:38 AM Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail Wrote these words of wisdom: Yes it is, to do this you use a milter program. You can write one or perhaps use this one: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/penguin/open_source_mimedefang.php which has the capability to add boilerplate. (I don't know if it can add your x-header where you want it, though) Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Seibert Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 11:23 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Using Sendmail to add headers to mail I am not sure if this is possible or not. Is it possible to add custom 'X-' headers to mail using Sendmail? For instance, suppose I wanted to add the Habeas Headers http://www.habeas.com/ to all my outgoing email. Is it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my MUA? I noticed on the Habeas site that there was a configuration for Exim, if that means anything. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 10/11/2005 5:29:42 PM, Gerard Replied: Thanks Ted. I took a quick look at it; however, I do not think it is exactly what I need though. I will have to take a closer look later. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Using Sendmail to add headers to mail
I am not sure if this is possible or not. Is it possible to add custom
'X-' headers to mail using Sendmail? For instance, suppose I wanted to add
the Habeas Headers http://www.habeas.com/ to all my outgoing email. Is
it possible to do via Sendmail, or can this only be accomplished via my
MUA?
I noticed on the Habeas site that there was a configuration for Exim, if
that means anything.
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Re: Using sendmail
On 2004-06-25 10:12, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos: Thanks for your review of my setup I did change the IP for server2 back to 200.200.200.102 -- however, now the emails go straight though the firewall port on server1 to sendmail on server2 and apparently bypasses sendmail on server1. If it bypasses sendmail on server1, I cannot use greylisting to filter the emails before being sent over to server2. I'm still missing something here. I'm afraid I haven't kept notes about your network setup, the name and IP address of each server involved, and their Sendmail options. Can you, please, show me what these commands print? server1# ifconfig -a server1# host server1.example.net server1# host server2.example.net server1# host -t mx example.net server2# ifconfig -a server2# host server1.example.net server2# host server2.example.net server2# host -t mx example.net A detailed description (including verbatim copies of the relevant files) of the Sendmail setup on each host would be very nice too. - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
- Original Message - From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Using sendmail On 2004-06-25 10:12, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos: Thanks for your review of my setup I did change the IP for server2 back to 200.200.200.102 -- however, now the emails go straight though the firewall port on server1 to sendmail on server2 and apparently bypasses sendmail on server1. If it bypasses sendmail on server1, I cannot use greylisting to filter the emails before being sent over to server2. I'm still missing something here. I'm afraid I haven't kept notes about your network setup, the name and IP address of each server involved, and their Sendmail options. Can you, please, show me what these commands print? Giorgos: Thanks for your patience and willingness to help. As far as sendmail (8.12.11) options, my configs are pretty much out of the box except for the spamassassin majordomo addins. I believe below is all the pertinent info, but if I've missed anything needed, just let me know: server1 = franklin-belle.com (gateway/firewall/nat/router) server2 = antentop.com (server is on same LAN with NAT route from server1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:-) host franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com has address 65.68.247.73 franklin-belle.com mail is handled (pri=0) by mail.franklin-belle.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:-) host antentop.com antentop.com has address 65.68.247.75 antentop.com mail is handled (pri=0) by mail.antentop.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:-) host -t mx franklin-belle.com franklin-belle.com mail is handled (pri=0) by mail.franklin-belle.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:-) host -t mx antentop.com antentop.com mail is handled (pri=0) by mail.antentop.com local-host-names (franklin-belle.com) franklin-belle.com mail.franklin-belle.com local-host-names (antentop.com) antentop.com mail.antentop.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail - One more file
- Original Message - From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Using sendmail On 2004-06-25 10:12, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos: Thanks for your review of my setup I did change the IP for server2 back to 200.200.200.102 -- however, now the emails go straight though the firewall port on server1 to sendmail on server2 and apparently bypasses sendmail on server1. If it bypasses sendmail on server1, I cannot use greylisting to filter the emails before being sent over to server2. I'm still missing something here. I'm afraid I haven't kept notes about your network setup, the name and IP address of each server involved, and their Sendmail options. I forgot to include the mailertable from server1: mail.antentop.comesmtp.mail.antentop.com No mailertable on server2 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
- Original Message - From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: Using sendmail [-- Format recovered from broken Outlook wrapping --] On 2004-06-24 13:18, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-06-24 11:33, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops! I should have said please send any config examples needed to do this...?? Look at the file /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README near line 794: : mailertable Include a mailer table which can be used to override : [snip] You might also want to check out the rest of this file, [...] Okay, I know I still have messed it up. Tried the setup below, but something is wrong because of the errors shown and is not delivered to server #2. Server #1 - IP 200.200.200.101 - DNS for mail.server2.net points here (was to 200.200.200.102 and OK on normal delivery) I hope you don't mean that the name mail.server2.net now points to 200.200.200.101. Only the MX records for server2.net need to point to the first host, so that mail for the domain is delivered to this host. - mail.server2.net in local-host-names IIRC, this isn't right. You should only list mail.server2.net in the local-host-names of 200.200.200.102. - In mailertable = mail.server2.net esmtp:mail.server2.net This seems ok. Server #2 - IP 200.200.200.102 - has sendmail pop3 - mail.server2.net in local-host-names - has user william This seems ok too. Send test mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] get error: SYSERR(root): mail.server2.net. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) That's because mail.server2.net points to the address 200.200.200.101. When sendmail on that host tries to deliver the message as per the instructions of your mailertable, it discovers that the message is sent back to itself! A loop... - Giorgos Giorgos: Thanks for your review of my setup I did change the IP for server2 back to 200.200.200.102 -- however, now the emails go straight though the firewall port on server1 to sendmail on server2 and apparently bypasses sendmail on server1. If it bypasses sendmail on server1, I cannot use greylisting to filter the emails before being sent over to server2. I'm still missing something here. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
you need to user mailertable to send the email from first server to the second one. no need to forward. the second server should accept the emails for the domains it is holding the mailboxes for (in access file) Let me know if you need some config examples. -M. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:46:15 -0500, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this isn't too far OT. I want to setup 2 mailservers using sendmail. The first to receive emails for all users (vhosts too) and filter through greylisting. Then forward the rest to another mailserver using SpamAssassin/Procmail on the LAN to their POP3 Inboxes (qpopper) where they will pick up their mail. Based on tests so far, it looks like I will have to use an open relay in order to forward the emails. Is this correct? Would appreciate any URLs where this setup is explained. Best regards, Jack L. Stone ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
Mailertable -- oho! Never thought of that. Yes, could you send an example of the typical mailertable file that will do this? Many, many thanks Best regards, Jack L. Stone - Original Message - From: Murat Bicer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Using sendmail you need to user mailertable to send the email from first server to the second one. no need to forward. the second server should accept the emails for the domains it is holding the mailboxes for (in access file) Let me know if you need some config examples. -M. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:46:15 -0500, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this isn't too far OT. I want to setup 2 mailservers using sendmail. The first to receive emails for all users (vhosts too) and filter through greylisting. Then forward the rest to another mailserver using SpamAssassin/Procmail on the LAN to their POP3 Inboxes (qpopper) where they will pick up their mail. Based on tests so far, it looks like I will have to use an open relay in order to forward the emails. Is this correct? Would appreciate any URLs where this setup is explained. Best regards, Jack L. Stone ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
oops! I should have said please send any config examples needed to do this...?? Thanks again! Best regards, Jack L. Stone - Original Message - From: Murat Bicer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Using sendmail you need to user mailertable to send the email from first server to the second one. no need to forward. the second server should accept the emails for the domains it is holding the mailboxes for (in access file) Let me know if you need some config examples. -M. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:46:15 -0500, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this isn't too far OT. I want to setup 2 mailservers using sendmail. The first to receive emails for all users (vhosts too) and filter through greylisting. Then forward the rest to another mailserver using SpamAssassin/Procmail on the LAN to their POP3 Inboxes (qpopper) where they will pick up their mail. Based on tests so far, it looks like I will have to use an open relay in order to forward the emails. Is this correct? Would appreciate any URLs where this setup is explained. Best regards, Jack L. Stone ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
Make sure mailtable feature is enabled in the config file. and you should check the mailertable file location in the sendmail.cf file. generally /etc/mail/mailertable: accepted.domain.com esmtp:[firstserver.hostname] On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:32:37 -0500, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailertable -- oho! Never thought of that. Yes, could you send an example of the typical mailertable file that will do this? Many, many thanks Best regards, Jack L. Stone - Original Message - From: Murat Bicer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Using sendmail you need to user mailertable to send the email from first server to the second one. no need to forward. the second server should accept the emails for the domains it is holding the mailboxes for (in access file) Let me know if you need some config examples. -M. On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:46:15 -0500, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this isn't too far OT. I want to setup 2 mailservers using sendmail. The first to receive emails for all users (vhosts too) and filter through greylisting. Then forward the rest to another mailserver using SpamAssassin/Procmail on the LAN to their POP3 Inboxes (qpopper) where they will pick up their mail. Based on tests so far, it looks like I will have to use an open relay in order to forward the emails. Is this correct? Would appreciate any URLs where this setup is explained. Best regards, Jack L. Stone ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using sendmail
On 2004-06-24 11:33, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oops! I should have said please send any config examples needed to do
this...??
Look at the file /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README near line 794:
: mailertable Include a mailer table which can be used to override
: routing for particular domains (which are not in class {w},
: i.e. local host names). The argument of the FEATURE may be
: the key definition. If none is specified, the definition
: used is:
:
: hash /etc/mail/mailertable
:
You might also want to check out the rest of this file, as it's the
definitive reference for sendmail configuration options. Another good
reference, which is always available, but seldom exploited to its full
potential is the ``Sendmail Installation and Operation Guide''.
You can find it in /usr/share/doc:
$ zcat /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/paper.ascii.gz | less
HTH,
- Giorgos
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Re: Using sendmail
- Original Message -
From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Using sendmail
On 2004-06-24 11:33, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oops! I should have said please send any config examples needed to
do
this...??
Look at the file /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README near line 794:
: mailertable Include a mailer table which can be used to override
: routing for particular domains (which are not in class
{w},
: i.e. local host names). The argument of the FEATURE
may be
: the key definition. If none is specified, the
definition
: used is:
:
: hash /etc/mail/mailertable
:
You might also want to check out the rest of this file, as it's the
definitive reference for sendmail configuration options. Another good
reference, which is always available, but seldom exploited to its full
potential is the ``Sendmail Installation and Operation Guide''.
You can find it in /usr/share/doc:
$ zcat /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/paper.ascii.gz | less
HTH,
- Giorgos
Indeed, I had read the above before and spent lost of time searchin the
sendmail website too, but could never get it right.
Okay, I know I still have messed it up. Tried the setup below, but something
is wrong because of the errors shown and is not delivered to server #2.
Server #1 - IP 200.200.200.101
- DNS for mail.server2.net points here (was to 200.200.200.102 and OK on
normal delivery)
- mail.server2.net in local-host-names
- In mailertable = mail.server2.net esmtp:mail.server2.net
Server #2 - IP 200.200.200.102
- has sendmail pop3
- mail.server2.net in local-host-names
- has user william
Send test mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
get error:
SYSERR(root): mail.server2.net. config error: mail loops back to me (MX
problem?)
and...
Jun 24 12:43:45 server1 sm-mta[78108]: i5OHhi0f078104:
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=30706, relay=mail.server2.net. [200.200.200.101], dsn=5.3.5, stat=Local
configuration error
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Re: Using sendmail
[-- Format recovered from broken Outlook wrapping --] On 2004-06-24 13:18, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-06-24 11:33, antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops! I should have said please send any config examples needed to do this...?? Look at the file /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README near line 794: : mailertable Include a mailer table which can be used to override : [snip] You might also want to check out the rest of this file, [...] Okay, I know I still have messed it up. Tried the setup below, but something is wrong because of the errors shown and is not delivered to server #2. Server #1 - IP 200.200.200.101 - DNS for mail.server2.net points here (was to 200.200.200.102 and OK on normal delivery) I hope you don't mean that the name mail.server2.net now points to 200.200.200.101. Only the MX records for server2.net need to point to the first host, so that mail for the domain is delivered to this host. - mail.server2.net in local-host-names IIRC, this isn't right. You should only list mail.server2.net in the local-host-names of 200.200.200.102. - In mailertable = mail.server2.net esmtp:mail.server2.net This seems ok. Server #2 - IP 200.200.200.102 - has sendmail pop3 - mail.server2.net in local-host-names - has user william This seems ok too. Send test mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] get error: SYSERR(root): mail.server2.net. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) That's because mail.server2.net points to the address 200.200.200.101. When sendmail on that host tries to deliver the message as per the instructions of your mailertable, it discovers that the message is sent back to itself! A loop... - Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]Using sendmail(or something else) as my smtp for all user on mynetwork
Try configuring the reply to address in the mailer soft to point to the (Bcomcast address rather than the local server and that should work. (B (BHTH (B (BLukeK (B (B- Original Message - (BFrom: "Rod Person" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTo: "Questions FreeBSD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BSent: 2003$BG/(B9$B7n(B16$BF|(B 10:51 (BSubject: [OT]Using sendmail(or something else) as my smtp for all user on (Bmynetwork (B (B (B-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (B (BI'm not very versed in sendmail and I'm not sure if this is possible so I (Bthought I'd asked the list. (B (BI have a home network that consists of 2 freebsd machines and 3 windows (Bmachines. I'd like to set everyone up to use sendmail (or any mta for that (Bmatter) as the smtp server. But I would like everyone to keep their email (Baddress that end in comcast.net. Is this possible? If so where do I look for (Binformation and tutorials on this. (B (BI don't want any outgoing mail from my network to go to comcast at all, but (BI (Bwant to make sure if some one replies to the mail it get back to the sender. (B (BTIA (B- -- (BRod (B (B@ Home So No Cool Signature (Bhttp://opensourcebeef.bsd.st (B (B-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- (BVersion: 2.6.3ia (BCharset: noconv (B (BiQCVAwUBP2ZsurENMBXf/1bRAQHUlAQAiqoryuYW3RT0mJ0NVYVXX6l02a7HoiRc (BnCVTW0K2w4edq30mM1K5x0XtkIBnVRIhCcclO9aG0yR3fabsUS8vh6XN42KjZvIN (BiLS7Viz/EXCbaN+AVGxE+JJB1oPlAEMp2lGqEubuYUeUKup00OSN+B+Va2Kc0rls (BXNmLpE8jAz0= (B=A77t (B-END PGP SIGNATURE- (B (B___ (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (Bhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions (BTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (B (B___ (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (Bhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions (BTo unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: [OT]Using sendmail(or something else) as my smtp for all user on my network
Hello Rod, Monday, September 15, 2003, 8:51:54 PM, you wrote: R I'm not very versed in sendmail and I'm not sure if this is possible so I R thought I'd asked the list. R I have a home network that consists of 2 freebsd machines and 3 windows R machines. I'd like to set everyone up to use sendmail (or any mta for that R matter) as the smtp server. But I would like everyone to keep their email R address that end in comcast.net. You want to set up a simple MTA on one of your FBSD machines to act as your mail server for your LAN. You can use Sendmail, but for the beginner it can be overwhelming to understand. May I suggest Postfix, as it is pretty much ready to go out of the box. If you do not have your own registered domain, you would set it up and can very easily use comcast.net as your domain on your outgoing email for your entire LAN. This is well documented in the main.cf file of Postfix on how to do this. You can send mail through comcast's SMTP server this way. R Is this possible? Of course. Then you would route all your mail to Sendmail or Postfix and have the MTA program you choose, route it through your ISP's (comcast.net) SMTP server, just like you do now. R If so where do I look for information and tutorials R on this. Either on the Sendmail or Postfix website. R I don't want any outgoing mail from my network to go to comcast at all Ah, this adds a wrinkle. Do you have your own FQDN and do you have mx records in your DNS (if you are authoritative for your domain)? Also, will comcast allow you to send mail via your server through their net block on port 25? Probably not, but you would need to check and have your own domain. Otherwise, how will you get mail, and not have it go to comcast? R , but I want to make sure if some one replies to the mail it get back R to the sender. Then you need your own domain, and either have your own DNS or have someone keep / publish the domain records for you. As above, you also have to check that comcast will allow you to have SMTP out and inbound, or if they are blocking port 25.. If they do block SMTP (other than their own domain), you are out of luck. -- Best regards, Gary ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
