FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)

2010-10-12 Thread Jud
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, Brandon Gooch jamesbrandongo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke arvid.warne...@gmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if

Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)

2010-10-12 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 12/10/2010 12:39:59, Jud wrote: My reading on the FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64 Wrong. amd64 Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard

Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)

2010-10-12 Thread Nathan Vidican
ia64 is for Intel Itanium - NOT Core 2 Duo. The core 2 duo extends it's 64 bit instructions from the Intel EMT64 extensions. You can read up on this topic further at Wikipedia if you'd like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT64#Intel_64 To summarize though - AMD64 is the platform you're looking

Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)

2010-10-12 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:39:59AM -0400, Jud wrote: Here's an excellent place to start your research: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook I've got a 13 MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure that's

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-10 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke arvid.warne...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Right now I use Mac

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-09 Thread Arvid Warnecke
Hello, On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Right now I use Mac OSX on my MacBook Pro and FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE on my IBM/Lenovo T60 Notebook. The

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: Jon Radel wrote: I'm somewhat unclear on how that follows. Might it not be that many manufacturers, busily dealing with Microsoft, and easing into Linux now that it has significant mindshare, have simply decided that there's no economic

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Blackman
Charlie Kester wrote: On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely coincidental. I've often seen that opinion expressed,

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Michel Talon
Chad Perrin wrote: Another thing to consider is the ease of maintaining the software on the machine. My personal opinion is that Ubuntu (more generally Debian) is light years ahead of FreeBSD in this domain. How is it light years ahead of FreeBSD for the ease of maintaining the

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:31:58 +0100, Mark Blackman m...@exonetric.com wrote: It's derived from a server/workstation OS and I assume the number of FreeBSD deployed servers wildly outnumbers the desktop/notebook installations and the tag line is The power to serve, so there's a strong server

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 16:42:40 +, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote: I mean that the concept of maintaining a full set of binary packages which has been verified by the distribution maintainers and remain usable for an extended period of time, combined with an effective binary

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Mark Blackman m...@exonetric.com wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely coincidental. That tends to be my perspective. Linux tends to

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:50:42AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Mark Blackman m...@exonetric.com wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 11:11:23AM +0700, Phan Quoc Hien wrote: Hello everyone, Which laptop vendor is best support for FreeBSD ? I've had good luck with ThinkPads. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgppdjrOCJnkm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:42:40PM +, Michel Talon wrote: I mean that the concept of maintaining a full set of binary packages which has been verified by the distribution maintainers and remain usable for an extended period of time, combined with an effective binary upgrader (apt-get,

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Ruhe
Hi guys, normally I am just listening to what is communicated related to the FreeBSD OS. But here I feel that I can contribute something for Which OS for notebook. I really do share the opinion that a good Linux might be more suitable for notebooks for Newbees, on the other hand I am using

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Oct 2010 at 07:31:58 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: Charlie Kester wrote: On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:50:42AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Mark Blackman m...@exonetric.com wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Carmel
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:44:17 +0200 Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com articulated: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc..

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Jon Radel
On 10/5/10 7:31 AM, Carmel wrote: I realize that at this point someone will inevitably chime in and play the blame the manufacturers whine. If that were factually correct, then no one else would be able to supply drivers and support for hardware that FreeBSD has left orphaned. I'm somewhat

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Blackman
Jon Radel wrote: I'm somewhat unclear on how that follows. Might it not be that many manufacturers, busily dealing with Microsoft, and easing into Linux now that it has significant mindshare, have simply decided that there's no economic benefit to releasing detailed hardware specs in a form

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 13:31:08 Carmel wrote: I have been tooling around with FreeBSD for a year or so now and I find it incredible that there is virtually no support for modern hardware; i.e., drivers for 'N' protocol devices. That one factor alone, and there are others, precludes me

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Well, according to me FreeBSD works very well on desktops (except for CUDA), but I agree that its usage is extremely limited for laptops and netbooks. If I can't use ACPI or wireless on my laptop/netbook, I don't really see the point... Over the past 6 years I have tried many times to use FreeBSD

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 15:47:36 Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 13:31:08 Carmel wrote: I have been tooling around with FreeBSD for a year or so now and I find it incredible that there is

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:31:48 +0200 Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za articulated: So. What's the connection between freebsd.u...@seibercom.net, carmel...@hotmail.com and ges...@yahoo.com, who all post through scorpio.seibercom.net, and who all have remarkably similar views on why FreeBSD

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. I'm using FreeBSD on my Lenovo ThinkPad T60. One of the nice things about choosing FreeBSD for my laptop OS

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Phan Quoc Hien
Hello. I have same question here. My laptop is HP Pavilion dv4 series, can run fine on FreeBSD or other opensource OS? Thanks! On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Mubeesh ali
just dont choose an acer 5745 or any laptop runnning Insyde BIOS ...from my personal experience (BIOS gets stuck at splash screen after BSD install) regards, Mubeesh On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote: Hi, On Monday 04 October 2010 12:11:30

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Erik Ulven
Hi, I use lenovo thinkpad T400s with freebsd 8.1 amd64 and openbsd 4.8 i386 (snapshot) as dual boot. I'm extremely satisfied with both hardware and the OS's. The laptop is light, doesn't heat up as much as the others I've tried and is very performant. Wireless works very well with both OS's.

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread David Kelly
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. MacOS X 10.6.4. Its solid, supported, and Unix. In general the Unix things that need to be treated differently

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Michel Talon
David Kelly wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 01:11:30AM -0300, Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. MacOS X 10.6.4. Its solid, supported, and Unix. In general the Unix things that

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:12:31PM +, Michel Talon wrote: Another thing to consider is the ease of maintaining the software on the machine. My personal opinion is that Ubuntu (more generally Debian) is light years ahead of FreeBSD in this domain. How is it light years ahead of FreeBSD

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Mubeesh ali wrote: just dont choose an acer 5745 or any laptop runnning Insyde BIOS ...from my personal experience (BIOS gets stuck at splash screen after BSD install) It works fine if you don't blow away the BIOS partition. At least it has for me on an Aspire One

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
El 05/10/2010 06:51 p.m., Chad Perrin escribió: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:12:31PM +, Michel Talon wrote: Another thing to consider is the ease of maintaining the software on the machine. My personal opinion is that Ubuntu (more generally Debian) is light years ahead of FreeBSD in this

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
El 05/10/2010 02:29 p.m., Phan Quoc Hien escribió: Hello. I have same question here. My laptop is HP Pavilion dv4 series, can run fine on FreeBSD or other opensource OS? Thanks! Please, take a look at the following thread before going any further: HP Envy 14 laptop damaged by FreeBSD 8.1

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
El 05/10/2010 02:39 p.m., Erik Ulven escribió: Hi, ... Wireless works very well with both OS's. suspend/resume works most of the time with freebsd, and always with openbsd. built in camera works with openbsd. Most of the special keys (light, suspend, etc) seems to work fine with freebsd. Erik

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Phan Quoc Hien
Hello everyone, Which laptop vendor is best support for FreeBSD ? Thanks. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: El 05/10/2010 02:29 p.m., Phan Quoc Hien escribió: Hello. I have same question here. My laptop is HP Pavilion dv4 series,  can run fine on FreeBSD or

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:41:13PM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: In my personal experience I have found that creating, maintaining and handling rpm packages is a lot easier than creating ports or keeping the software up to date using packages. I find working with the ports system easier, as

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread doug
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010, Leandro F Silva wrote: Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Thank you ! Personally I like to use FreeBSD, but a better answer is found on freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org. Read the

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread Gautham Ganapathy
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Thank you ! ___ I would prefer FreeBSD,

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread Jack L.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Gautham Ganapathy gaut...@lisphacker.orgwrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc..

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Monday 04 October 2010 12:11:30 Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. there is no general answer. You must select an individual model first and see then if the hardware is

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Whitehouse
On 10/04/10 17:55, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Monday 04 October 2010 12:11:30 Leandro F Silva wrote: Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. there is no general answer. You must select an individual model

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-04 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Leandro F Silva fsilvalean...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Thank you ! Linux Mandriva 2010 on my notebook (Dell 1318) and Mandriva 2010.1 on my

Which OS for notebook

2010-10-03 Thread Leandro F Silva
Hi guys, Which OS are you using on your notebook, FreeBSD / Linux or MAC ? Also, can you tell us the hardware, Sony / HP etc.. Thank you ! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To