Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Benjamin Lutz wrote: On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Kees Plonsz wrote: Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. I sign emails for the same reason I sign my snail-mail letters with a pen. I like providing authenticity. Whether the recipient actually checks the signatures is not that important, important is that if the need or desire arises, he can. I don't import every key I come across either, usually only those keys for which I get signatures on a regular basis. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. Most people use PGP/Mime these days. If your mail client does not support PGP, the signature will be surpressed or maybe shown as attachment. Either way, that doesn't make the mail content harder to read. And if your Mail client doesn't support Mime yet, well, that's your choice, and seeing the signature plaintext is far from the worst inconvience you'll have to put up with in that case. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. That's different. Html text means there's no readable content at all for non-HTML mail readers. And these are quite common. I sign my emails for two other reasons. First, I'm advocating adoption of PGP by everyone. I wish to sensitize people for the facts that standard emails are neither private nor authenticated, and that you can achieve these very important things with PGP. Frankly, I find it staggering how many people send around confidential information in emails over the public internet, without thinking of the consequences. The second reason is very personal. It takes some effort on my part to sign email. I am not using any key agent, which means I enter my keyphrase every time I send an email. This makes the process of sending an email more conscious for me: I think twice whether I really want to send it. Sometimes times I've stopped myself from sending an email I would later regret (a flame, or an angry answer, something like that) at the signing stage. It means that sending an email is not as much of a fire-and-forget thing for me. I like that. You raise some good points there. I've not looked at the above at all for my own use yet. Do you recommend some reading on what it is, how-tos etc which are a little less dry than man pages? -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. Let me hear your opinion about this.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
On Saturday 15 April 2006 08:23, Kees Plonsz wrote: Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. Let me hear your opinion about this.. my 2 cents is: Ive never imported one key in my entire life, nor have i had need to. hehe, here is how i sign emails: Jonathan Horne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
Kees Plonsz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. Let me hear your opinion about this.. There have been occasional incidents of impersonation for the purpose of defaming character. While I'm not Theo deRadtt, and therefore not a huge target for such activities, I can't blame anyone for signing every single message they send, so they establish a pattern that can later prove which messages were truely theirs. With regards to your mail program issues: Digisigs don't use very many bytes, and most modern MUAs will display a signed message cleanly. Even those that don't still allow the message to be read. Considering the number of identity thefts that occur every year, I believe digisigs are a necessary protective evil that we'd best get used to. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Kees Plonsz wrote: Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. I sign emails for the same reason I sign my snail-mail letters with a pen. I like providing authenticity. Whether the recipient actually checks the signatures is not that important, important is that if the need or desire arises, he can. I don't import every key I come across either, usually only those keys for which I get signatures on a regular basis. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. Most people use PGP/Mime these days. If your mail client does not support PGP, the signature will be surpressed or maybe shown as attachment. Either way, that doesn't make the mail content harder to read. And if your Mail client doesn't support Mime yet, well, that's your choice, and seeing the signature plaintext is far from the worst inconvience you'll have to put up with in that case. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. That's different. Html text means there's no readable content at all for non-HTML mail readers. And these are quite common. I sign my emails for two other reasons. First, I'm advocating adoption of PGP by everyone. I wish to sensitize people for the facts that standard emails are neither private nor authenticated, and that you can achieve these very important things with PGP. Frankly, I find it staggering how many people send around confidential information in emails over the public internet, without thinking of the consequences. The second reason is very personal. It takes some effort on my part to sign email. I am not using any key agent, which means I enter my keyphrase every time I send an email. This makes the process of sending an email more conscious for me: I think twice whether I really want to send it. Sometimes times I've stopped myself from sending an email I would later regret (a flame, or an angry answer, something like that) at the signing stage. It means that sending an email is not as much of a fire-and-forget thing for me. I like that. Cheers Benjamin pgpXG3LWRXQln.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why are people singing there postings on this mailling list ?
On Saturday 15 April 2006 10:23, Benjamin Lutz wrote: On Saturday 15 April 2006 15:23, Kees Plonsz wrote: Is is so important to know that the question or answer came from that person ? I don't think so. Even if it were so, for me it is too much trouble to import every key into my key-database from a key-server. I sign emails for the same reason I sign my snail-mail letters with a pen. I like providing authenticity. Whether the recipient actually checks the signatures is not that important, important is that if the need or desire arises, he can. I don't import every key I come across either, usually only those keys for which I get signatures on a regular basis. On the other hand, those who aren't able to read singed messages are confronted with a lot of carbage tekst wich makes the posting harder to read. Most people use PGP/Mime these days. If your mail client does not support PGP, the signature will be surpressed or maybe shown as attachment. Either way, that doesn't make the mail content harder to read. And if your Mail client doesn't support Mime yet, well, that's your choice, and seeing the signature plaintext is far from the worst inconvience you'll have to put up with in that case. We don't send postings in .html for that same reason. That's different. Html text means there's no readable content at all for non-HTML mail readers. And these are quite common. I sign my emails for two other reasons. First, I'm advocating adoption of PGP by everyone. I wish to sensitize people for the facts that standard emails are neither private nor authenticated, and that you can achieve these very important things with PGP. Frankly, I find it staggering how many people send around confidential information in emails over the public internet, without thinking of the consequences. The second reason is very personal. It takes some effort on my part to sign email. I am not using any key agent, which means I enter my keyphrase every time I send an email. This makes the process of sending an email more conscious for me: I think twice whether I really want to send it. Sometimes times I've stopped myself from sending an email I would later regret (a flame, or an angry answer, something like that) at the signing stage. It means that sending an email is not as much of a fire-and-forget thing for me. I like that. Cheers Benjamin +1, well said. Nicolas. -- FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 8 21:33:25 EDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A PGP? : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc pgpR9hjXEdxUn.pgp Description: PGP signature
