Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-06 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:35:34 + "Colin Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06/03/2008, RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Everything I've every seen about this suggests that amd64 is > > faster on a few applications, such as mp3 encoding, but generally > > there is very little difference,

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Colin Adams
On 06/03/2008, RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Everything I've every seen about this suggests that amd64 is faster on > a few applications, such as mp3 encoding, but generally there is very > little difference, on average, across desktop applications. Do you have > any measurements to support

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread RW
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:47:53 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm > >> using a simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots > >> of bells & whistles. > >> > >> I suspect binaries on i386 will be somew

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
Thanks everyone, based on the info I am returning the nvidia card and getting an R4xx instead (found an X850 for under $80 still sold; seems to be well enough supported). I still want to try amd64; other limitations do not bother me that much (I do not care for wine or win32 codecs). __

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread aline
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, alive wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 09:22:35PM +0100, alive wrote: > Thanks. > Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards? http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=59&grp=2 Support for r300 based cards is coming as well. > Do you know if this driver supports Composite? Ope

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
Thanks. Do you by any chance have a link to supported cards? Do you know if this driver supports Composite? OpenGL? On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:32:06 +0100, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote: >> > Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Bob Johnson
On 3/5/08, Isaac Mushinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/5/08, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > > > I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating > > > installing FreeBSD/arch, but now re

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 06:29:51PM +0100, alive wrote: > > Any ATI card up to and including the 9250 (rv280) is fully supported on > > amd64, 3D and all. (I know because I've got one :-) > Oh, is that so? Could you please tell me how you got it to work? Because > I've got GREAT issues getting *ANY

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
of RAM, and I seldom use more than half of that. Mind you, I'm using a simple window manager not a desktop environment with lots of bells & whistles. I suspect binaries on i386 will be somewhat smaller. But amd64 has more registers which might give some speed advantages. I haven't tested it, but

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
On 3/5/08, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > > I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating > > installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some > > problems. > > > > My nvid

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread alive
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:13:03 +0100, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: >> I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating >> installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some >> prob

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:36:33AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating > installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some > problems. > > My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since nvidia

Re: amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-05 Thread Aline de Freitas
Em Wednesday 05 March 2008 02:36:33 Isaac Mushinsky escreveu: > I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating > installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some > problems. > > My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since > nvidia-dri

amd64 or i386 for desktop use?

2008-03-04 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
I have new hardware (Abit ip35-pro, Intel Q6600), and was contemplating installing FreeBSD/arch, but now realise that I am going to have some problems. My nvidia card will not be of much use (GeForce 8500GT), since nvidia-drivers are not there for amd64, and the open source nv driver does not e