are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread Gary Kline
iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
abbreviations that vi does?  I ask this because I don't know
wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak
at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with
it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations.  

The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use
the mouse and/or arrow keys.  pidgin also uses abbrvs.  BEcause
i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of
abbrev.  [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other 
words.  

I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_
know vi and use another editor.  just curious

gary




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Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread Fred

On 02/21/11 18:32, Gary Kline wrote:

iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
abbreviations that vi does?  I ask this because I don't know
wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak
at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with
it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations.

The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use
the mouse and/or arrow keys.  pidgin also uses abbrvs.  BEcause
i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of
abbrev.  [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other
words.

I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_
know vi and use another editor.  just curious

gary




I have been using nedit for many years.  It is very easy to use.  It 
uses the mouse, arrow keys, etc. so you don't have to do multiple 
keystrokes.  Vi is insane.  I don't know what you mean about the 
abbreviations though.  I don't think it does that.  The current version 
in ports for 8.1-RELEASE has a problem requiring a simple patch when it 
is built. This was discussed here a couple weeks ago.


Best regards,
Fred

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Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
abbreviations that vi does?


kate, the bundled text editor for KDE can use vi bindings.

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Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 21 February 2011 20:49, Fred f...@blakemfg.com wrote:
 On 02/21/11 18:32, Gary Kline wrote:

        iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
        vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
        abbreviations that vi does?  I ask this because I don't know
        wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak
        at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with
        it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations.

        The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use
        the mouse and/or arrow keys.  pidgin also uses abbrvs.  BEcause
        i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of
        abbrev.  [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other
        words.

        I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_
        know vi and use another editor.  just curious


As little as I like linking to the encyclopaedia that even a
paranoid hydrocephalic with (Gilles de la) Tourette syndrome
can edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors#Key_bindings

  Vi
 is insane.

Indeed.
http://www.rants.org/ed.html

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Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 06:49:18PM -0700, Fred wrote:
 On 02/21/11 18:32, Gary Kline wrote:
  iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
  vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
  abbreviations that vi does?  I ask this because I don't know
  wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak
  at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with
  it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations.
 
  The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use
  the mouse and/or arrow keys.  pidgin also uses abbrvs.  BEcause
  i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of
  abbrev.  [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other
  words.
 
  I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_
  know vi and use another editor.  just curious
 
  gary
 
 
 
 
 I have been using nedit for many years.  It is very easy to use.  It
 uses the mouse, arrow keys, etc. so you don't have to do multiple
 keystrokes.  Vi is insane.  I don't know what you mean about the
 abbreviations though.  I don't think it does that.  The current
 version in ports for 8.1-RELEASE has a problem requiring a simple
 patch when it is built. This was discussed here a couple weeks ago.
 
 Best regards,
 Fred


Very simply, in your .vimrc, if you type

:ab i I

or

:ab thr there

anytime you type i it goes to I.  The thr abbreviation
becomes the word there.

gary


 
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Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations

2011-02-21 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:21:20PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
 iF we throw out gvim since it is simply the GUI variant of
 vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab
 abbreviations that vi does?
 
 
 kate, the bundled text editor for KDE can use vi bindings.
 
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 Adam Vande More


Interesting.  I have use kate by accident a few times.  But my
fingers did /pattern anf [hjkl] just by habit.  So I quit out of
it and went back to [n]vi :-)

thanks!

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