Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-21 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Dear Derek, Kris and others,

Solved - thank you very much for your help! It was the ehthernet adapter.
I got an Intel adapter and haven't had a single problem with freezes.

Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction.

Warm regards,

Zbigniew Szalbot

Derek Ragona wrote:
 Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue.  I would
  try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a
 cheap experiment.

 -Derek



 At 04:30 PM 2/15/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 Hello,


 Derek Ragona wrote:

 First you should provide more information such as the output from
 your dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode.

 In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database
 and exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so).


 Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it
 still ping-able?
 In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively
 short period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2
 minutes).

 For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on
 a log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots
 of data), the system would freeze. But not always.

 Here's the dmesg.today output:


 Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS
 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
 CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6


 Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
 CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE
 real memory  = 535691264 (510 MB) avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB) kbd1
 at kbdmux0 acpi0: MEIP01  on motherboard
 acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
 Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
 agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem
 0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0
  pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
 dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem
 0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
 miibus0: MII bus on dc0
 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
 ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58
 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
 isa0: ISA bus on isab0
 atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port
 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
  ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached)
 pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
 pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6
  drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST]
 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on
 acpi0
 sio0: type 16550A
 ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq
 3
 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
 ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
 ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
 ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0
 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
 sio1: port may not be enabled
 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on
 isa0 Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800
 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
 ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66
 acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4
 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
 dc0: watchdog timeout
 dc0: watchdog timeout
 dc0: watchdog timeout
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diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Ross Penner

Hi mailing list.

I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very
small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and
running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly.  I would love
to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where
to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I
don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction?
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Philip Hallstrom

I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very
small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and
running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly.  I would love
to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where
to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I
don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction?


Start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/console and then just anything 
else in /var/log... look at the entries just before it hangs.. sometimes 
you'll get a clue as to what is causing it to panic...

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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Derek Ragona
First you should provide more information such as the output from your 
dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode.


Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still 
ping-able?


-Derek


At 03:25 PM 2/15/2007, Ross Penner wrote:

Hi mailing list.

I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very
small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and
running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly.  I would love
to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where
to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I
don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction?
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

 Start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/console and then just anything
 else in /var/log... look at the entries just before it hangs.. sometimes
 you'll get a clue as to what is causing it to panic...

I also experience periodic freezes. One pattern I am able to see is that
whenever there is a freeze and I cannot log to the box for a period,
/var/log/messages says:

Feb 14 00:06:35 192 kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout
Feb 14 03:14:59 192 kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout

Freezes are always connected with watchdog timeout. Any hints how to dig
further?

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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:25:22PM -0700, Ross Penner wrote:
 Hi mailing list.
 
 I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very
 small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and
 running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly.  I would love
 to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where
 to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I
 don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction?

See the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers handbook.

Kris
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

Derek Ragona wrote:
 First you should provide more information such as the output from your
 dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode.

In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database and
exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so).


 Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still
 ping-able?
In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively short
period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2 minutes).

For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on a
log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots of
data), the system would freeze. But not always.

Here's the dmesg.today output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
  
Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 535691264 (510 MB)
avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: MEIP01  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem
0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem
0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
miibus0: MII bus on dc0
ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6
drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3
on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66
acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 dc0: watchdog timeout

Either your dc hardware or the driver is malfunctioning, so this is
what you need to address.

Kris
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Derek Ragona
Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue.  I would 
try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap 
experiment.


-Derek


At 04:30 PM 2/15/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

Hello,

Derek Ragona wrote:
 First you should provide more information such as the output from your
 dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode.

In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database and
exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so).


 Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still
 ping-able?
In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively short
period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2 minutes).

For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on a
log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots of
data), the system would freeze. But not always.

Here's the dmesg.today output:

Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6

Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 535691264 (510 MB)
avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: MEIP01  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem
0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem
0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1
miibus0: MII bus on dc0
ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6
drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FAST]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3
on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66
acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
dc0: watchdog timeout
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:02:27PM -0600, Derek Ragona wrote:
 Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue.  I would 
 try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap 
 experiment.

Yeah, I missed the swap message - when your system is swapping then
performance will definitely be terrible.

In fact now I see that I've already given this advice to the original
poster on two previous occasions (November and January).  I guess he
chooses not to believe it.

Kris
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Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze

2007-02-15 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:02:27PM -0600, Derek Ragona wrote:
Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue.  I would 
try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap 
experiment.


Yeah, I missed the swap message - when your system is swapping then
performance will definitely be terrible.



And when it's *out* of swap space, it'll be even worse.  The OP has two 
problems, both of which could be significant.  Out of swap is, for certain.




In fact now I see that I've already given this advice to the original
poster on two previous occasions (November and January).  I guess he
chooses not to believe it.

Kris


Kris: if so, his loss.

Ross: add more swap space, and perhaps your system will behave a tad 
better.  There's an article in the manual; see also swapon(8) and 
/etc/fstab.


Re: watchdog timeouts, see dc(4).  If you are on a ISP that has some 
performance problems (mine seems that way), that could be it.  Also, 
check your other network equipment; if you have any way, for example, to 
test with a different switch/hub/router, and to try different settings 
for the adapter (duplex/half, etc.), it might be worth a try.


Or, you could always change your ethernet card (unless we're talking 
about laptops here).


My $0.02 (at a lower exchange rate than Kris's),

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