Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Dear Derek, Kris and others, Solved - thank you very much for your help! It was the ehthernet adapter. I got an Intel adapter and haven't had a single problem with freezes. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction. Warm regards, Zbigniew Szalbot Derek Ragona wrote: Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue. I would try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap experiment. -Derek At 04:30 PM 2/15/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, Derek Ragona wrote: First you should provide more information such as the output from your dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode. In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database and exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so). Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still ping-able? In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively short period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2 minutes). For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on a log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots of data), the system would freeze. But not always. Here's the dmesg.today output: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA, CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 535691264 (510 MB) avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: MEIP01 on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem 0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem 0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 miibus0: MII bus on dc0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached) pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0:
diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Hi mailing list. I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly. I would love to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly. I would love to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction? Start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/console and then just anything else in /var/log... look at the entries just before it hangs.. sometimes you'll get a clue as to what is causing it to panic... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
First you should provide more information such as the output from your dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode. Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still ping-able? -Derek At 03:25 PM 2/15/2007, Ross Penner wrote: Hi mailing list. I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly. I would love to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Hello, Start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/console and then just anything else in /var/log... look at the entries just before it hangs.. sometimes you'll get a clue as to what is causing it to panic... I also experience periodic freezes. One pattern I am able to see is that whenever there is a freeze and I cannot log to the box for a period, /var/log/messages says: Feb 14 00:06:35 192 kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout Feb 14 03:14:59 192 kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout Freezes are always connected with watchdog timeout. Any hints how to dig further? -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:25:22PM -0700, Ross Penner wrote: Hi mailing list. I've been running FreeBSD 6.2 on a computer as a gateway for my (very small) local area network. Every two weeks since I've got it up and running, it will completely lock up, seemingly randomly. I would love to investigate the root of the problem, but I'm not exactly sure where to start. I'm sure there are many files I should be looking at but I don't know what they are. Can someone guide me in the right direction? See the chapter on kernel debugging in the developers handbook. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Hello, Derek Ragona wrote: First you should provide more information such as the output from your dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode. In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database and exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so). Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still ping-able? In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively short period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2 minutes). For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on a log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots of data), the system would freeze. But not always. Here's the dmesg.today output: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 535691264 (510 MB) avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: MEIP01 on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem 0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem 0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 miibus0: MII bus on dc0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached) pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 11:30:25PM +0100, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: dc0: watchdog timeout Either your dc hardware or the driver is malfunctioning, so this is what you need to address. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue. I would try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap experiment. -Derek At 04:30 PM 2/15/2007, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, Derek Ragona wrote: First you should provide more information such as the output from your dmesg, whether you have the server running X or just text mode. In my case I do not run X, the system mostly operates mysql database and exim MTA (and this causes a bigger load sometimes up to 3.0 or so). Describe your lockup, does the system completely freeze, or is it still ping-able? In my case it is always a complete freeze but only for a relatively short period of time (20-30 seconds, sometimes longer though - up to 2 minutes). For example, I noticed on a few occasions that when I used cat |grep on a log file and the output displayed on screen was quite extensive (lots of data), the system would freeze. But not always. Here's the dmesg.today output: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 22 12:52:41 CET 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LISTS Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (868.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x387f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,PN,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 535691264 (510 MB) avail memory = 514801664 (490 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: MEIP01 on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: Intel 82810E (i810E GMCH) SVGA controller mem 0xe800-0xebff,0xeff8-0xefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 dc0: Davicom DM9102A 10/100BaseTX port 0xbc00-0xbcff mem 0xefdfff00-0xefdf irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 miibus0: MII bus on dc0 ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:ad:82:6e:58 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel ICH UDMA66 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 pci0: serial bus, USB at device 31.2 (no driver attached) pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: ECP parallel printer port port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0 plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0 lpt0: Printer on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: ISA Option ROM at iomem 0xc-0xcbfff on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter TSC frequency 868204315 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00JJC0 05.01C05 at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM LTN485/KQG1 at ata0-slave PIO4 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog timeout dc0: watchdog
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:02:27PM -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue. I would try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap experiment. Yeah, I missed the swap message - when your system is swapping then performance will definitely be terrible. In fact now I see that I've already given this advice to the original poster on two previous occasions (November and January). I guess he chooses not to believe it. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diagnosing a reacurring system freeze
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 05:02:27PM -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: Hard to tell if it is your dc0 ethernet adapter or a swap issue. I would try a different ethernet controller and see what happens as that is a cheap experiment. Yeah, I missed the swap message - when your system is swapping then performance will definitely be terrible. And when it's *out* of swap space, it'll be even worse. The OP has two problems, both of which could be significant. Out of swap is, for certain. In fact now I see that I've already given this advice to the original poster on two previous occasions (November and January). I guess he chooses not to believe it. Kris Kris: if so, his loss. Ross: add more swap space, and perhaps your system will behave a tad better. There's an article in the manual; see also swapon(8) and /etc/fstab. Re: watchdog timeouts, see dc(4). If you are on a ISP that has some performance problems (mine seems that way), that could be it. Also, check your other network equipment; if you have any way, for example, to test with a different switch/hub/router, and to try different settings for the adapter (duplex/half, etc.), it might be worth a try. Or, you could always change your ethernet card (unless we're talking about laptops here). My $0.02 (at a lower exchange rate than Kris's), Kevin Kinsey -- Emersons' Law of Contrariness: Our chief want in life is somebody who shall make us do what we can. Having found them, we shall then hate them for it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]