Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen ... pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around? If not for the WYSIWYG requirement I'd suggest some variant of TeX. Based entirely on reputation, I'd think PowerPoint could do this fairly easily, provided the symbols you need are in one of the installed fonts. Have you tried the corresponding OpenOffice tool? (I think it may be called present or some such.) If I were going to do something like this, and didn't want to take time to learn a new tool, I'd try using Visio -- one of only two apps which I've found useful enough to get me to voluntarily put up with Windoze. Dunno (yet) how well it will run under wine; this is one of several things I intend to try if I can ever find the time to get a newer FreeBSD system set up. (Wine is reputed to not work at all well on 6.1.) Ports/graphics/dia is somewhat similar to Visio, I think more limited, but perhaps sufficient depending on just what you need to do. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like sqrt(2) in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, editors/abiword with deskutils/gucharmap? graphics/xfig or graphics/gimp with some math symbol images like those at: http://us.metamath.org/symbols/symbols.html? The drag-and-drop requirement is a bit limiting. If OpenOffice doesn't meet your needs (are you sure the drawing or presentation components won't work for you?), and you have the time, you might be better off learning TeX and using something like editors/texmacs or print/lyx15, which are WYSIWYG, or nearly so. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like sqrt(2) in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, Can I ask why you want to do this? That might help point to a suitable solution. With a little work you might be able to build something like this with jsMath or MathML. Here's info about jsMath: http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen ... pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around? If not for the WYSIWYG requirement I'd suggest some variant of TeX. Based entirely on reputation, I'd think PowerPoint could do this fairly easily, provided the symbols you need are in one of the installed fonts. Have you tried the corresponding OpenOffice tool? (I think it may be called present or some such.) OOo Math. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 07:11 -0600, Jason Aubrey wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:23 AM, b. f. bf1...@googlemail.com wrote: Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like sqrt(2) in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, Can I ask why you want to do this? That might help point to a suitable solution. With a little work you might be able to build something like this with jsMath or MathML. Here's info about jsMath: http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/ I was hoping that by now there would be a set of math glyphs that could be dragged and dropped around a screen--possibly firefox, possibly OOo or abiword--to show a set of equations for any number of purposes. Last years I found that I could create something close with OO Math, but it required typing by keyboard. D and Drop: nope. There are new Firefox apps that look hopeful. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:40:07 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like sqrt(2) in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, As you intendedly state that you're not searching for a solution in the field of typesetting - where LaTeX comes to mind immediately - I could imagine that you can do it the hard way. First, see the symbols here: http://web.ift.uib.no/Fysisk/Teori/KURS/TeX/symALL.html Split the images into individual ones, and then use a graphics suite, such as Gimp or OpenOffice Draw, to drag them around the screen and combine a formula from them. Surely, you would be massively faster doing it with LaTeX, but there's no mouse involved. :-) Another idea which I haven't tested or confirmed is to use the xfig program. If it contains a library that contains math symbols (that's the part that needs verification), you can import it and then use its symbols to draw a forula with them. Again, LaTeX would be the faster solution. :-) Ah, and a final idea, but that doesn't seem to be adopted well: Use MathML and combine it with HTML and CSS. And as you already have guessed: LaTeX is faster. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On 9 February 2010 20:27, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: As you intendedly state that you're not searching for a solution in the field of typesetting - where LaTeX comes to mind immediately - I could imagine that you can do it the hard way. First, see the symbols here: http://web.ift.uib.no/Fysisk/Teori/KURS/TeX/symALL.html Split the images into individual ones, and then use a graphics suite, such as Gimp or OpenOffice Draw, to drag them around the screen and combine a formula from them. Surely, you would be massively faster doing it with LaTeX, but there's no mouse involved. :-) There is also this site: http://detexify.kirelabs.org/classify.html . It allows you to draw a mathematical symbol -- with your mouse -- and it will guess how you write that in LaTeX. As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this could be rather helpful. ~ Ondra ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ondřej Majerech oxyd.o...@gmail.com wrote: As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this could be rather helpful. There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing mechanism for formulas. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:34PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ond??ej Majerech oxyd.o...@gmail.com wrote: As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this could be rather helpful. There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing mechanism for formulas. lyx is there, in ports/print/lyx. given all the work it takes to create what i'm thinking of, it makes sense to do it via the keyboard. --and even then, you may not get it right for several tries. i was thinking of simple things like, say, the integral from 0 to pi dxdy; ormaybe the nth root of x-to-the-yth power. then i saw how messy thing can get and i understand why no one has done this before! thanks, gents. gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: display and manipulate math symbols?
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55:34PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:04:41 +0100, Ond??ej Majerech oxyd.o...@gmail.com wrote: As I guess the main reason for wanting to move symbols around visually is so that you don't have to remember tons of TeX sequences, this could be rather helpful. There was a tool called LyX; I have to admit that I never used it, but maybe it also contains a mouse-driven editing mechanism for formulas. lyx is there, in ports/print/lyx. given all the work it takes to create what i'm thinking of, it makes sense to do it via the keyboard. --and even then, you may not get it right for several tries. i was thinking of simple things like, say, the integral from 0 to pi dxdy; ormaybe the nth root of x-to-the-yth power. OOo Math: int from 0 to pi dxdy nroot n (x^y) Please reconsider the indenting on your posts. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
display and manipulate math symbols?
Is there any app or web site where you can select from a bunch of math symbols and arrange them on-screen? I'm not talking about a program to solve; just display. And i think you can describe things in english like sqrt(2) in OOo, and have that sq root sign displayed. Not that either; rather pre-drawn symbols that could be moused around, Been looking for hours; can't find. thanks for any clues, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
