install on external hdd
Hello everyone, I am new in FreeBSD. I want to install from DVD FreeBSD on an external hdd and I get an error when running the program partitioning. When I press alt + ctrl + F3, last lines: rm: /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/fstab: No such file or directory Running installation step: autopart Segmentation fault Running installation step: umount I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Please, help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install on external hdd
Your research is correct so far. On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter if detected at program runtime or system boot. As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process you've shown above does not even reach that step. If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the last messages that will be the same. You can also check the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*) or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error. Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2. But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it could be possible that the power drain from the USB port is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you try to attach a separate power supply to the disk? For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports, controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it probably won't work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
install on external hdd
In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg I found information about five usbus and all except the last one (it has 2.0) written usb 1.0. I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed. Also about usbus written that they are 2-port hub (probably built into the motherboard). In the first four usbus is intel UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB ls / dev / da * finds nothing camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is already connected to a second usb port. 07.07.2013, 00:37, Polytropon free...@edvax.de: Your research is correct so far. On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter if detected at program runtime or system boot. As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process you've shown above does not even reach that step. If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the last messages that will be the same. You can also check the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*) or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error. Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2. But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it could be possible that the power drain from the USB port is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you try to attach a separate power supply to the disk? For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports, controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it probably won't work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install on external hdd
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 01:15:48 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg I found information about five usbus and all except the last one (it has 2.0) written usb 1.0. I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed. Looks like a current issue. From WP: A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0. If the disk needs more than 500 mA to spin up and start properly, it won't work on a USB 2.0 port unless you use the external power supply. Also about usbus written that they are 2-port hub (probably built into the motherboard). In the first four usbus is intel UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB That kind of combination can often be found. My older home PC also had this kind of configuration (Intel EHCI, VIA UHCI). ls / dev / da * finds nothing camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW This shows that the disk isn't recognized by the OS, therefore not usable in any disk-related operation. My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is already connected to a second usb port. Also check the USB cable. Sometimes a partially defective cable causes this kind of trouble. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time Machine), what is the best file system to use? Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time Machine), what is the best file system to use? Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Regards, -- -Chuck Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
Hi-- On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is supported. I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/ Indeed. As one might note on that page: defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1 ^^^ #include std/disclaimer.h Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is supported. I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/ Indeed. As one might note on that page: defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1 ^^^ The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as another network fileserver. While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7. There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived - maczfs.com. There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo. I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
On 30 March 2013 02:14, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is supported. I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. http://www.area536.com/**projects/ironclad-time-** machine-backups-on-freebsd/http://www.area536.com/projects/ironclad-time-machine-backups-on-freebsd/ Indeed. As one might note on that page: defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolume **s 1 ^^^ The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as another network fileserver. While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7. There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived - maczfs.com. There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo. I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist. Aye, I know that. My point is, perhaps that'd be his best bet then ? Attach the USB device to the FreeBSD box, export it over afp. I know that's not really ideal, that's a given. However, this is a solution that allows him to use the disk on fbsd, and still be able to export TM backups. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: external hdd
Thank you Chuck! I've tried fusefs-hfs a couple months ago and wasn't working very well. So yeah, I might create some DOS partition to be shared. Regards, Laszlo -- Laszlo Danielisz On 2013 March 29 Friday at 6:06 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Mar 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Danielisz wrote: If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time Machine), what is the best file system to use? Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data interchange between other OSes. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org (mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
external hdd
Hi there, If I'm sharing an external 1TB HDD with FreeBSD and OS-X (I wan to use Time Machine), what is the best file system to use? thx! Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mount in user mode USBD for external HDD
Hi, well
I have 2 problems
the first:
I have external hdd and I want that the system create a symlinks when I turn on
my hdd
usbdev -v
give me:
Controller /dev/usb4:
addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x),
VIA(0x),rev 1.00
port 1 powered
port 2 powered
port 3 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0702),
GenesysLogic(0x05e3), rev 0.02
port 4 powered
port 5 powered
port 6 powered
port 7 powered
port 8 powered
Well I want to add a script in usbd.conf
then I have add this before device USB device
device HddCombo
devname da[0-9]+
vendor 0x05e3
product 0x0702
attach ln -sf /dev/{DEVNAME} /dev/hddcombo
(perhaps {DEVNAME}s1 is better)
but it doesn't work
My version of freebsd:
uname -a
FreeBSD vincent 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sat Feb 19 19:03:33 CET 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VINCENT i386
Well, when I connect my hdd nothing append
just this in dmesg
umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.02, addr 2
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: Maxtor 6 Y160P0 0811 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 156334MB (320173056 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19929C)
Ok, the second problem is that I want to mount this disk with a user
If hddcombo is correctly link, I have this fstab line
/dev/hddcombo /mnt/removable ext2fs ro,noauto 0 0
Well, how can I do a mount command in users mode, in order to allow people I
want to mount this, without login in in root
ok thx for support
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Re: Mount in user mode USBD for external HDD
Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, well
I have 2 problems
the first:
I have external hdd and I want that the system create a symlinks when I turn
on my hdd
usbdev -v
give me:
Controller /dev/usb4:
addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x),
VIA(0x),rev 1.00
port 1 powered
port 2 powered
port 3 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0702),
GenesysLogic(0x05e3), rev 0.02
port 4 powered
port 5 powered
port 6 powered
port 7 powered
port 8 powered
Well I want to add a script in usbd.conf
then I have add this before device USB device
device HddCombo
devname da[0-9]+
vendor 0x05e3
product 0x0702
attach ln -sf /dev/{DEVNAME} /dev/hddcombo
(perhaps {DEVNAME}s1 is better)
but it doesn't work
What do you mean by doesn't work?
My version of freebsd:
uname -a
FreeBSD vincent 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sat Feb 19 19:03:33 CET
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VINCENT i386
Well, when I connect my hdd nothing append
just this in dmesg
umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.02, addr 2
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: Maxtor 6 Y160P0 0811 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 156334MB (320173056 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19929C)
Ok, the second problem is that I want to mount this disk with a user
If hddcombo is correctly link, I have this fstab line
/dev/hddcombo /mnt/removable ext2fs ro,noauto 0 0
Well, how can I do a mount command in users mode, in order to allow people I
want to mount this, without login in in root
There's a FAQ entry on letting users mount filesystems, but in this
case it seems like it would be easier for users (as well as more
secure) if you just configured usbd to mount the disk itself. I
haven't done this sort of thing myself, but I would expect that doing
the mount in an attach script (and umount in a detach script) would
solve the problem.
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Re: Mount in user mode USBD for external HDD
In fact,
device da[0-9]+
doesn't match when I plug my hdd
I need to put device umass[0-9]+
and the ${DEVICENAME} = umass0 for exemple
I don't know how to obtain the pseudo da device with just information umass0
Use sysctl or devinfo doesn't match it
The only way I have found to get this information is to extract it from dmesg
But it's not really a fine way
Well, have an idea ?
Le Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 06:00:38PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert a écrit:
To: Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Mount in user mode USBD for external HDD
From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Feb 2005 18:00:38 -0500
User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3
Bachelier Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi, well
I have 2 problems
the first:
I have external hdd and I want that the system create a symlinks when I
turn on my hdd
usbdev -v
give me:
Controller /dev/usb4:
addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x),
VIA(0x),rev 1.00
port 1 powered
port 2 powered
port 3 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, USB TO IDE(0x0702),
GenesysLogic(0x05e3), rev 0.02
port 4 powered
port 5 powered
port 6 powered
port 7 powered
port 8 powered
Well I want to add a script in usbd.conf
then I have add this before device USB device
device HddCombo
devname da[0-9]+
vendor 0x05e3
product 0x0702
attach ln -sf /dev/{DEVNAME} /dev/hddcombo
(perhaps {DEVNAME}s1 is better)
but it doesn't work
What do you mean by doesn't work?
My version of freebsd:
uname -a
FreeBSD vincent 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sat Feb 19 19:03:33 CET
2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VINCENT i386
Well, when I connect my hdd nothing append
just this in dmesg
umass0: Genesys Logic USB TO IDE, rev 2.00/0.02, addr 2
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: Maxtor 6 Y160P0 0811 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
da0: 156334MB (320173056 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19929C)
Ok, the second problem is that I want to mount this disk with a user
If hddcombo is correctly link, I have this fstab line
/dev/hddcombo /mnt/removable ext2fs ro,noauto 0 0
Well, how can I do a mount command in users mode, in order to allow people
I want to mount this, without login in in root
There's a FAQ entry on letting users mount filesystems, but in this
case it seems like it would be easier for users (as well as more
secure) if you just configured usbd to mount the disk itself. I
haven't done this sort of thing myself, but I would expect that doing
the mount in an attach script (and umount in a detach script) would
solve the problem.
--
Vincent Bachelier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Societe : Solintech
Site pro: http://www.solintech.fr
Project :
Ripperwww: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/ripperwww
Citation (fortune):
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how to access an external HDD via firewire
HI I am a total newbie to all things related to USB2 and Firewire. I have a 10GB external hard disk formatted in FAT32. It is the only single partition. FreeBSD 5.2.1, P3-866Mhz, 256 MB RAM. Use a PCI Firewire card. DMesg recognizes this as LUCENT FW 322/323. I have the foll in my kernel config file: device firewire device sbp device umass device da device pass device scbus SHOULD I add device fwohci? This is not recognised by /usr/sbin/config. 1. I am able to do camcontrol start da0. 2. mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /bck fails with incorrect superblock on da0 or something like that. Q: Since I am new, what are the steps to be able to mount and use this HDD? Any help will be appreciated. I really need to get this to work. Thanks Tk Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What support for USB2/Firewire External HDD in 4.8
Hi I have been trying to evaluate the support offered under 4.8 for external USB2/Firewire drives. I've browsed the firewire mailing list archive but am still left unsure. In particular, has anyone had experience or knowledge on the Adaptec DuoConnect AUA3020 PCI card (dual USB2 and Firewire) and an Amacom 40GB EZ2Disk (again, USB2 and Firewire) with FreeBSD? I wouldn't expect to be unmounting regularly - its really as part of a backup solution. Apologies if this has been answered before, I have scanned the questions list but didn't find quite the thing... TIA Martyn Hill Network Administrator St James Independent School London ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
