Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-04 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:49:23 +0200, mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks alot for that. i mean, apart from your general overview of freebsd (system, project and community), which gives me an idea how things are done, what's happeniing and where things are, you really put me at ease with

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:40 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so most of you _do_ use or prefer csup/cvsup more than portsnap, right? Welcome! :) yes and no :P I like portsnap. faster. For my ports, i run this script ( ~/bin/update_ports.sh) #!/bin/sh sudo portsnap fetch sudo portsnap

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread Fraser Tweedale
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 04:06:40PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:40 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so most of you _do_ use or prefer csup/cvsup more than portsnap, right? Welcome! :) yes and no :P I like portsnap. faster. For my ports, i run this

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Sunday 03 August 2008 03:18:23 Fraser Tweedale wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 04:06:40PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:40 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so most of you _do_ use or prefer csup/cvsup more than portsnap, right? Welcome! :) yes

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Sunday 03 August 2008 05:41:19 you wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 05:31:35AM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2008 03:18:23 Fraser Tweedale wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 04:06:40PM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:40 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread RW
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 05:57:00 -0300 Gonzalo Nemmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2008 05:41:19 you wrote: Well, yes. `portsnap cron update` if running from cron. My point was that you can do fetch and update in one operation :) Oh sure ! But check this out, this is

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-03 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:40 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so most of you _do_ use or prefer csup/cvsup more than portsnap, right? There are 2 ports that will help you with management of your ports/packages - ports-mgmt/portupgrade and ports-mgmt/portmaster (

gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread mcassar
hi, i have a new freebsd 7-release installed and very new to anything outside windows and may have jumped into the deep end to soon- but freebsd is the only thing i liked and want to keep, mess around with and hopefully learn something; so all i know is what i got from the handbook and the net

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread RW
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:50:48 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: firstly - i have installed kde3 and xfce4 from packages (like most of it - xorg,etc) and have tried updates before with different results. i don't mind messing things up, as long as i can somehow surf or check mails - but

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread mcassar
On Saturday 02 August 2008 17:32:53 RW wrote: On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:50:48 +0200 mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: firstly - i have installed kde3 and xfce4 from packages (like most of it - xorg,etc) and have tried updates before with different results. i don't mind messing things up, as

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread Michael Powell
mcassar wrote: [snip] I only tried csup on ports once and wasn't too sure i should since the handbook or somewhere mentioned the ports tree should be empty the first time you run it; and got the impression you should only use either or (csup vs portsnap). I can only speak to cvsup or csup

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread mcassar
On Saturday 02 August 2008 19:38:20 Michael Powell wrote: I can only speak to cvsup or csup (which I use) but I'd like to point out a very common mistake wrt either. It is a good idea to have two different sup files, as they will need to download different collections of material. For example

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:32:53 +0200, mcassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn, thanks - I had mistaken stable to be what is release; i had come across the difference at some point but didn't realise when i tried cvsup (which i also mistook to be more recent than csup). First of all, a hearty

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Huff
Michael Powell writes: I can only speak to cvsup or csup (which I use) but I'd like to point out a very common mistake wrt either. It is a good idea to have two different sup files, as they will need to download different collections of material. For example this: *default

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread mcassar
On Saturday 02 August 2008 21:43:43 Robert Huff wrote: Michael Powell writes: I can only speak to cvsup or csup (which I use) but I'd like to point out a very common mistake wrt either. It is a good idea to have two different sup files, as they will need to download different collections

Re: gemeral questions (noobish)

2008-08-02 Thread mcassar
thanks alot for that. i mean, apart from your general overview of freebsd (system, project and community), which gives me an idea how things are done, what's happeniing and where things are, you really put me at ease with trying to figure out these warnings, or at least what to expect and