Re: getting a current system

2004-04-16 Thread jens

Hello Aaron, 

Could you give us the output of the different error messages you got
during this upgrading? You described in detail what you did but did
not describe the errors.


Kind regards.

Jens

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Re: getting a current system

2004-04-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 08:21:21PM -0400, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I've been trying to get an up-to-date FreeBSD system running for the
 past 2 weeks, but keep running into problems.  I've tried both 5.2.1 and
 4.9 (with 4.9 giving me more problems believe it or not).  I'm pretty
 sure I followed the steps in the handbook correctly, but I might be
 wrong.  Basically, I'd like to verify that I am doing this correctly. 
 Right after a fresh install I have been doing:
 
  - Editing supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup.  Specifically, the
 doc-supfile, ports-supfile and (stable-supfile for 4.9 and
 standard-supfile for 5.2.1).  Changed the CVS host and the default base
 to /usr/local/etc/cvsup
  - Ran 'cvsup -g -L 2 SUPFILE' for the supfiles above that were edited.
  - Created /etc/make.conf with simple flags:
   CPUTYPE=athlon-xp
   CFLAGS=-O -pipe
   MAKE_SHELL=sh
   NOPROFILE=true
  - Ran 'mergemaster -p' to check if any config changes are needed before
 running 'make buildworld' 
  - cd /usr/src  make -j4 buildworld
  - make buildkernel (for now I have just used the GENERIC until I get
 this all working)
  - make installkernel
  - Reboot to single-user mode
  - make installworld
  - mergemaster
 
 Is this all that is needed to update the system?  4.9 gave me the most
 problems during and after the above steps.  I am really determined to
 get this working, despite all the problems I am having.  A fresh install
 of 5.2.1 has just finished, so I am gonna try this again (hopefully with
 the help of you guys).

Yes, that is a pretty fair summary of the steps required to update a
system.  There's a couple of other points, neither of which should be
anything that blocks things from working:

 i) MAKE_SHELL -- as far as I can tell, this was a proposal that was
either never committed to the FreeBSD sources, or was once
committed and has since been removed.  Although this variable is
documented in make.conf(5)...

The original proposal can be seen here:


http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=36961+0+archive/2000/freebsd-hackers/2430.freebsd-hackers

but greping the 4-STABLE sources doesn't return any hits, except
for that man page, and the particular case of libreadline, where
MAKE_SHELL is used as a variable in it's configure system.

In any case, the presence or absence of MAKE_SHELL in your
/etc/make.conf should not have any effect on what you're trying to
do.  I'd leave it out myself.

ii) Using parallel make -- the '-j 4' flags.  Certainly should work,
but if you're running into problems, this should be the first
thing you drop when trying to debug them.  

The only other thing that leaps out at me as a possible problem is:

CPUTYPE=athlon-xp

Under 4.x that's not one of the recognised settings.  You would want:

CPUTYPE=k7

in that case.  But as you say, you're using 5.2.1 now, where it is one
of the recognised CPU types.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: getting a current system

2004-04-16 Thread Aaron Walker
On Fri, 2004-04-16 at 01:54, jens wrote:
 Hello Aaron, 
 
 Could you give us the output of the different error messages you got
 during this upgrading? You described in detail what you did but did
 not describe the errors.
 

I will try those steps again (I was waiting for feedback to make sure I
was doing it right) and record any errors.  After pulling my hair out
for the last week or two over this, I finally decided to record
everything I was doing last night.  Will post any errors later on today
(watch it work ;)).

Thanks again guys.

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getting a current system

2004-04-15 Thread Aaron Walker
I've been trying to get an up-to-date FreeBSD system running for the
past 2 weeks, but keep running into problems.  I've tried both 5.2.1 and
4.9 (with 4.9 giving me more problems believe it or not).  I'm pretty
sure I followed the steps in the handbook correctly, but I might be
wrong.  Basically, I'd like to verify that I am doing this correctly. 
Right after a fresh install I have been doing:

 - Editing supfiles in /usr/share/examples/cvsup.  Specifically, the
doc-supfile, ports-supfile and (stable-supfile for 4.9 and
standard-supfile for 5.2.1).  Changed the CVS host and the default base
to /usr/local/etc/cvsup
 - Ran 'cvsup -g -L 2 SUPFILE' for the supfiles above that were edited.
 - Created /etc/make.conf with simple flags:
CPUTYPE=athlon-xp
CFLAGS=-O -pipe
MAKE_SHELL=sh
NOPROFILE=true
 - Ran 'mergemaster -p' to check if any config changes are needed before
running 'make buildworld' 
 - cd /usr/src  make -j4 buildworld
 - make buildkernel (for now I have just used the GENERIC until I get
this all working)
 - make installkernel
 - Reboot to single-user mode
 - make installworld
 - mergemaster

Is this all that is needed to update the system?  4.9 gave me the most
problems during and after the above steps.  I am really determined to
get this working, despite all the problems I am having.  A fresh install
of 5.2.1 has just finished, so I am gonna try this again (hopefully with
the help of you guys).

Thanks,
Aaron

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Re: getting a current system

2004-04-15 Thread jens

Hello Aaron, 

Could you give us the output of the different error messages you got
during this upgrading? You described in detail what you did but did
not describe the errors.


Kind regards.

Jens

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