Energy use (was installing freebsd on windows)

2009-04-01 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job of course. windows vista runs well too

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Frank Shute
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:39:32AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:45:33 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:48 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: Virtual desktops. What are you referring to? Visit the power toys URL for further information. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx Thanks for that. Did they use to be called

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
got completely off topic. please get that discussion off the list FreeBSD is not windows program, but standalone OS. Possibly it can be run under windows and some kind of VM but it should be discussed on windows support list etc. ___

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Harold Hartley
Wojciech Puchar wrote: got completely off topic. please get that discussion off the list FreeBSD is not windows program, but standalone OS. Possibly it can be run under windows and some kind of VM but it should be discussed on windows support list etc.

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread perryh
Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: If the connection is down, I am probably NOT using the PC. Hell, if the power is out for more than 30 minutes, my UPS is dead so I am most definitely not using the machine. So you never experience connectivity problems for any reason other than a local power

Heller-Johnson syndrome (Re: installing freebsd on windows)

2009-03-28 Thread perryh
Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. Johnson's Corollary: Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the organization. Author unknown: If someone *does* know what is going on in the organization, that person must be

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-28 Thread Michael Powell
Harold Hartley wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. Sorry - I am not quite certain what you mean by this. FreeBSD is an operating system, just as Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc are different operating systems. If

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Tim Judd
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 01:03:59AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It's certainly

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:09:52AM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 08:31:31AM -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:50:40 + Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread Adam Vandemore
Tim Judd wrote: I'm looking for an OS with a sane file hierarchy and a shell I can use to manage the files therein. An editor better than Notepad would be a bonus too. I see the sense in C:\Users I see the sense in C:\Documents and Settings I see the sense in C:\WINDOWS I see the sense

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-27 Thread michael
have any of you flamers stopped to try and help the OP? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Wojciech Puchar wrote: PC-BSD===http://www.pcbsd.org/ DesktopBSD===http://www.desktopbsd.net/ And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes Windows users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, then click next, next, next, finish and have an

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
It's certainly not slow and messy here. I installed PCBSD a couple of months ago after a few years of rolling my own desktop and I love it. On reasonable spec hardware it runs very well, the developers have done an excellent job of course. windows vista runs well too on overmuscled hardware.

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: For testing purposes I've used Suns VirtualBox under Windows, it runs under Linux as well. (Free)BSD installs well and it can give you a first impression on how it works. There are some settings that you must keep in mind,

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:30:31AM +0530, Mehul Ved typed: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote: For testing purposes I've used Suns VirtualBox under Windows, it runs under Linux as well. (Free)BSD installs well and it can give you a first impression on how

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote: What worked for me was enabling VT-x/AMD-V in Virtualbox. No more panics since. If I am correct, that requires hardware with virtualisation support. That's not the case with my old P4. -- Am I SHOPLIFTING?

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Bruce Anthony Grobler br...@yoafrica.com wrote: As long as you have enough ram ( I'd say at least a gig) try VMware Server 1.1/2.0. I have production machines (including two freebsd 7.1 vm's) running on a VMware Server 2.0 working very well with the host having

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
install on windows like ubuntu does. FreeBSD is separate independent OS. it simply doesn't make sense. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I what a problem to create

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Or does freebsd offer a choice to install without messing anything up. It's a professional operating system, of course it does. :-) (FreeBSD exactly does what you tell it to do, nothing more and nothing less.) maybe that's why it's told to be so difficult for most people ;)

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
PC-BSD === http://www.pcbsd.org/ DesktopBSD === http://www.desktopbsd.net/ And PC-BSD even provides an installer (PBI) that makes Windows users feel at home: Download something from the web manually, then click next, next, next, finish and have an application installed. :-) even

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400 Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:12:39PM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I don't know what Ubuntu does. But, you can install FreeBSD on a machine that also runs MS-Win. The traditional way

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: I don't know what Ubuntu does. What ubuntu does is 1) Install ubuntu as a windows program 2) Run the ubuntu installer as any other win32 installer 3) Ubuntu is installed on a clean NTFS partition 4) Use windows bootloader

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:22:31PM +0530, Mehul Ved wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: I don't know what Ubuntu does. What ubuntu does is 1) Install ubuntu as a windows program 2) Run the ubuntu installer as any other win32 installer 3) Ubuntu

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread Mehul Ved
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: No affence here but if you want to just click, click, next, finish, stick to mtfk ubuntu we dnt need u No offence. But please read before sending the email. -- Twenty Percent of Zero is Better

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-25 Thread michael
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:12:39PM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I don't know what Ubuntu does. But, you can install FreeBSD on a machine that also

installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Harold Hartley
I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I want to boot into, such as

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:12:39 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm not sure I do understand install FreeBSD on 'Windows' - what does on refer to? a) Start an

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:59:40 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: Ubuntu uses wubi installer like an application and can be uninstalled if anyone didn't like it. And it sets it up at the boot up time a list to choose from. That is about what I was talking about. Okay, I do

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. In www.microsoft.com , search Virtual PC in Search Microsoft.com . There will be a result among many

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:30:58 -0400, Harold Hartley wheelie...@gwi.net wrote: Some may be running windows and may want to try freebsd and doesn't want to rid windows. But if something could be done to make it easy enough for those that doesn't know how to install freebsd or something of

Re: installing freebsd on windows

2009-03-24 Thread Leslie Jensen
Harold Hartley skrev: I am wondering if the freebsd team has ever thought of making freebsd to install on windows like ubuntu does. I'm just a person that can't afford more than one computer cause I live in a nursing home and I would like to be able to use one computer to choose what I

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0800, tsai wrote: Jerry, You read my mind. That was going to be my next question; how to get around the proprietary recovery section HP installed from the start. You hit the nail on the head! I will try this soon. Yup.

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:19:00PM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0800, tsai wrote: Jerry, You read my mind. That was going to be my next question; how to get around the proprietary recovery section HP installed from the

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 18:05 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:19:00PM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0800, tsai wrote: Jerry, You read my mind. That was going to be my next question; how to get

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:19:00PM +, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0800, tsai wrote: Jerry, You read my mind. That was going to be my next question; how to get around the proprietary recovery section HP

Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-14 Thread tsai
Hi all, Is there a tutorial on how to install FreeBSD on a system which already has Windows XP on it? The goal is to have dual-boot with both. Thanks, tsai -- tsai ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-14 Thread Neal Hogan
I used gparted (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ ) to move the XP partition to make room for fBSD. You make a bootable CD and I found it to be quite simple. Make sure that your XP partition is defragmented before using gparted. Otherwise, gparted will not let you manipulate the partition. Once you

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 06:13:45AM -0800, tsai wrote: Hi all, Is there a tutorial on how to install FreeBSD on a system which already has Windows XP on it? The goal is to have dual-boot with both. The FreeBSD Handbook - free online at the FreeBSD web site - has a whole section on that.

Re: Installing FreeBSD with Windows XP

2009-01-14 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0800, tsai wrote: Jerry, You read my mind. That was going to be my next question; how to get around the proprietary recovery section HP installed from the start. You hit the nail on the head! I will try this soon. Yup. Basically, you just ignore it,

Installing FreeBSD on Windows/Linux Shared Enviroment

2005-03-21 Thread Intel69
Hi, I was wondering, I am about to setup a computer I have to run Windows XP, Ubuntu and FreeBSD. I wanted to know if it was possible to run FreeBSD and Linux on the same computer. If I can, do I have to partition my disk in 3 parts? I have a 80Gb IDE that came with the dell... would be

Re: Installing FreeBSD on Windows/Linux Shared Enviroment

2005-03-21 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Intel69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering, I am about to setup a computer I have to run Windows XP, Ubuntu and FreeBSD. FreeBSD and all Linuxes I've ever encountered come with installers which acknowledge the fact that other operating systems exist and makes some effort at making