Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sat 2008-12-13 17:02:48 UTC-0500, Glen Barber (glen.j.bar...@gmail.com) wrote: i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and direct it to the MTA. Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to reply. Indeed. Also, these links may be useful... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_receipt#E-mail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_tracking ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] tia, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] If i understood you correctly, you mean confirmation of mail being read. It is not mail server job, it's purely mail client functionality. I'm not even sure if it was ever standarized. but for sure sendmail.mc/cf is not the right place to search only your mail program configs/docs. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and direct it to the MTA. Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to reply. -- Glen Barber If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] I don't think there's a way to *force* the recipients of your messages to reply whenever they read a post. Your MUA can ask for this sort of 'email receipt', but the recipient can always ignore it. My mailers always ignore this sort of mis-feature, for instance, because I consider it a violation of my privacy. Whenever I get one of these ``call home'' emails, I can't help but think: ``Why would you want to know that I woke up in the middle of the night, fired up Emacs, read a few qmail messages, but then thought it best to keep sleeping rather than reply to your message?'' Having said that, you can configure _your_ mutt instance to send DSN replies. Look for the dsn_notify and dsn_return options in the manual of Mutt. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but the only kind of receive confirmation you get from your FreeBSD system itself is the success entry in /var/log/maillog which will inform you that either the POP/SMTP server facility where the recipient has his mail account successfully received the message or the information that the SmartHost mail relay has accepted the message for relaying (in case your sendmail subsystem just hands mail over to a relay). Any kind of confirmation that the recipient has read the message is up to his mail client application. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:58:44PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] If i understood you correctly, you mean confirmation of mail being read. It is not mail server job, it's purely mail client functionality. I'm not even sure if it was ever standarized. not read, merely opened, touched--obviously... but for sure sendmail.mc/cf is not the right place to search only your mail program configs/docs. i was hoping sendmail, being the transfer agent was NOT the place. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 05:02:48PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and direct it to the MTA. Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to reply. :-) i just want to know that the OP opened/saw/skimmed thru. yes, i guess no reply means something... . -- Glen Barber If you have any trouble sounding condescending, find a Unix user to show you how it's done. --Scott Adams -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:10:19AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: guys, i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was opened on u...@foo.com. i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo. is there, perhaps a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book? [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph. i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!] I don't think there's a way to *force* the recipients of your messages to reply whenever they read a post. Your MUA can ask for this sort of 'email receipt', but the recipient can always ignore it. certainly. My mailers always ignore this sort of mis-feature, for instance, because I consider it a violation of my privacy. Whenever I get one of these ``call home'' emails, I can't help but think: ``Why would you want to know that I woke up in the middle of the night, fired up Emacs, read a few qmail messages, but then thought it best to keep sleeping rather than reply to your message?'' Having said that, you can configure _your_ mutt instance to send DSN replies. Look for the dsn_notify and dsn_return options in the manual of Mutt. AH, alright; i shall look, thanx. and i promise never to expect *anyone* to 1) respond instantaneously, or 2) to even respond. nonetheless, it'd be nice to know that professor life-or-death GOT my message. or maybe it was a cat-on-keyboard. ok. it's set up. now at least i know if the mail got to the other end. no delay,failure. thank you, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41:57AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but the only kind of receive confirmation you get from your FreeBSD system itself is the success entry in /var/log/maillog which will inform you that either the POP/SMTP server facility where the recipient has his mail account successfully received the message or the information that the SmartHost mail relay has accepted the message for relaying (in case your sendmail subsystem just hands mail over to a relay). Any kind of confirmation that the recipient has read the message is up to his mail client application. eeep! maillog is usually my Last Resort. thanks for the reminder. according to sendmail, the log prints if the message was delivered. never know how much is in the recipient's queue, of course... . -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.12a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
