Re: last question about up-to-date ( I hope )

2003-12-12 Thread Jan Grant
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:

 Hi ,

 For keep up to date FreeBSD I think all people are using source update
 method ( When I sent a message to list almost everybody adviced this ) Only
 one person said that binary update but this is not recommanded because
 compiled version always work better and I saw that compile update program is
 not working quickly because  Colin Percival waiting lest version 


 I'm just wonder Why patching is not used instead of source update..
 it's patching source tree too for security bugs ... I checking output of the
 cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile command . it's only download openssh , bind and
 like this almost what writen in security advisories .

 if you said soruce-update method more then security update Thats Okey .
 But I want to know or understand if I don't want to use new features and
 only interest with security updates ( patch updates ) Why patches does not
 enough ?!

You _are_ downloading patches when you use cvsup. However, the tool
provides a handy level of automation and therefore can prevent simple
pilot error compared to hand-application of patches.

You are not required to track the -STABLE branch. Every (recent) release
also has a maintenance branch, which merely receives security updates.
Cvsup can track these just as easily for you. The handbook has more
information on this.

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last question about up-to-date ( I hope )

2003-12-11 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi ,

For keep up to date FreeBSD I think all people are using source update
method ( When I sent a message to list almost everybody adviced this ) Only
one person said that binary update but this is not recommanded because
compiled version always work better and I saw that compile update program is
not working quickly because  Colin Percival waiting lest version 


I'm just wonder Why patching is not used instead of source update..
it's patching source tree too for security bugs ... I checking output of the
cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile command . it's only download openssh , bind and
like this almost what writen in security advisories .

if you said soruce-update method more then security update Thats Okey .
But I want to know or understand if I don't want to use new features and
only interest with security updates ( patch updates ) Why patches does not
enough ?!


Vahric

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Re: last question about up-to-date ( I hope )

2003-12-11 Thread Cordula's Web
 I'm just wonder Why patching is not used instead of source update..
 it's patching source tree too for security bugs ... I checking output of the
 cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile command . it's only download openssh , bind and
 like this almost what writen in security advisories .

Personally, I prefer to have the current sources on the machine,
so I can examine security breaches etc...

But the main advantage is that downloading source diffs requires
much less bandwidth than, say, newly compiled binaries. Tracking
-STABLE or -CURRENT with cvsup via a 56k modem line is a viable
option. I wouldn't like to download big binaries everytime a
small patch fixes something.

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