Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-26 Thread Charles Pelletier
Just thought I'd post this in response to where replies should go:
From How to Get the Best results from FreeBSD-Questions

9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

Charles Pelletier
Tech. Coordinator
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Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-26 Thread erk!
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:12:37 -0500
Charles Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 9.  Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
 replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
 each reply comes before the text to which it replies.

just to note, the only reason i'd mentioned that is because i was told,
numerous times, that this is how things are preferred here.  it made
sense, to an extent, particularly for those using clients like pine.  on
usenet, it's as above, but when i'd first joined the lists (6+ months
ago), i received several emails telling me not to.

in any case, the one error on my part isn't the point.  the point is, 25
quotes lines with what amounts to a me too response is just
rediculous.  sorry if that ruffles anyone's feathers, but last i
checked, nobody particularly appreciated those types of mails.

to the original person i was replying to, however: i did not mean for my
message to be interpreted as saying *you* are rude, as a person..merely
that those kinds of posts are needlessly full of unnecessary junk, which
is annoying due to slower download times to receive mail, readability,
etc, ad nauseam.  yes, i made a mistake on the top/bottom quoting thing:
i hadn't seen the line that mr. pelletier brought up, and again, i was
only going by what i was told numerous times before.

i'd also like to give thanks to the multiple copies of each email i was
sent, particularly from daleco, who felt his/her point was so
important to express to me, i needed to read it no less than 4 times.

- erk!

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Re: linux compatibility in 4.7

2002-10-25 Thread Alex


Monday, October 21, 2002, 9:51:46 PM, you wrote:

 Hi

 During my install of 4.7-RELEASE I selected Linux compatibility.  I saw a 
 message saying that it was istalling 6.1_3.  I was surprised, and a little 
 bit miffed, because 4.7 was supposed to have upgraded Linux compatibility to 
 7.1.

 After the install, I checked on what packages where installed and I saw
 linux_base-6.1_3 *AND* linux_base-7.1_1!  Now I am confused.  Are there 
 actually two packages?  I would have thought that 7.1 would be backward 
 compatible, so a 6.1 would not be necessary.  Is that not the case?

 Can anyone explain, and maybe shed some further light on this?

 Thanks!


 (c) Copyright 2002  John Daniels.  All rights reserved.




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Dear John,

I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary
and got installed by some form of minor bug.

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Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-25 Thread erk!
in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting, and put your reply
above the quote.  we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text,
including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. 
cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too.

i don't even use a console-only mail reader anymore, and i still find
this to be incredibly rude.

a good rule of thumb: if the text you're quoting is larger than your
reply, rethink it or don't post it.

- erk

 Dear John,
 
 I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary
 and got installed by some form of minor bug.

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Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-25 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-25 09:41:00 -0700:
 in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting,

agreed.

 and put your reply above the quote.

whoa! not agreed unless you're posting to a mailing list read
exclusively by people used to reading from bottom to top.
are *you* used to reading books from right to left?

  Dear John,
  
  I'm not sure, but my guess is that linux_base-6.1_3 isn't necessary
  and got installed by some form of minor bug.

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ignore your message.

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Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-25 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 and put your reply
 above the quote.  we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text,
 including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. 

You have that one backwards.  Text should flow logically from top to
bottom starting with original post (appropriately trimmed) through 
relevant other responses (again appropriately trimmed) down to the
most recent response.

 cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too.

That would be nice.

jerry

 
 - erk
 
  Dear John,
  


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Re: Netiquette (was Re: linux compatibility in 4.7)

2002-10-25 Thread Alex
Hello/Beste erk!,

Friday, October 25, 2002, 6:41:00 PM, you wrote:

 in the future, PLEASE trim the text you're quoting

The text it self wasn't that large. So i don't think this is wrong.
Plus I that leaving it would give someone else a better change at
understanding the question.
(http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 7)

 , and put your reply above the quote.

There is a document (about these specific mailing lists) that suggest
to put it at the bottom. (I'll continue doing so.) I feel it would be
better to simply place them at the bottom.
(http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 9)

The same document suggest not to put these kind of mail on the list.
(http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer see number 11)

 we shouldn't have to scroll through 20 rows of text,
 including the entirety of the original post, just to see your reply. 
 cutting out the MSN ad would've been nice, too.

I agree on the MSN part.

 i don't even use a console-only mail reader anymore, and i still find
 this to be incredibly rude.

I thought i was friendly, not rude!!

 a good rule of thumb: if the text you're quoting is larger than your
 reply, rethink it or don't post it.

There are a lot of detailed questions with simple answers. I don't see
way this couldn't apply to this one. I waited a couple of days (just
as a other writing suggested) for someone to come up with a better
answer. Since no one did I gave my thoughts.
(http://www.lemis.com/questions.html#answer number 5)

Nobody is perfect. This include you and me! I feel that you make to
much fuss out of this.

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Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet,
Alex


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