Re: nessus report

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On December 19, 2008 11:32:51 PM -0600 Richard Yang 
kusanagiy...@gmail.com wrote:




hi,
when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host
is
up.
i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
does anyone know how it is done?
thanx



There are several ways to detect if a host is up.  Responses to icmp 
packets is one.  Almost all hosts will respond to pings unless they're 
prevented by a firewall.


Another way is the type of response to a probe of a port.  Sometimes 
services will respond differently if they're firewalled than if they're 
not listening on a particular port.  Also, very few computers have no 
ports at all listening.  For example, most unix boxes will be running 
syslogd and listening on port udp/514.  That is the default for that 
daemon.  Unless you reconfigured syslogd to listen on localhost only, it 
will respond to probes.


Sometimes a host will respond to a problem with RSETs.  It's very, very 
hard to configure a box in such a way that it's impossible to detect that 
it's up and running.


Run sockstat and look at what's listening on your computer.  Then see if 
you can figure out how to get it to stop listening on those ports.


Paul Schmehl (pa...@utdallas.edu)
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Yang
hi,
when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host is
up.
i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
does anyone know how it is done?
thanx

rich
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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread michael



Richard Yang wrote:

hi,
when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host is
up.
i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
does anyone know how it is done?
thanx

rich
  

uh, maybe because it responded?

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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Yang
yes,but i dpn't know how...
it looks to me that all ports are closed

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:



 Richard Yang wrote:

 hi,
 when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host
 is
 up.
 i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
 does anyone know how it is done?
 thanx

 rich


 uh, maybe because it responded?

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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Laine
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:32:51PM -0800, Richard Yang wrote:
 hi,
 when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host is
 up.
 i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
 does anyone know how it is done?
 thanx
 
 rich

I can't tell about nessus but nmap does so after discovering any open ports, 
TCP RST responses from closed ports or ICMP responses from your host. 
I believe it's similar with the nessuss.


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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Jeff Laine
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:41:46PM -0800, Richard Yang wrote:
 yes,but i dpn't know how...
 it looks to me that all ports are closed
 
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Richard Yang wrote:
 
  hi,
  when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host
  is
  up.
  i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
  does anyone know how it is done?
  thanx
 
  rich
 
 
  uh, maybe because it responded?
 

Check your firewall settings and run tcpdump  to be sure your host not sending 
any replies after scan attempt.

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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Yang
i just used tcpdump.it doesn't capture anything package

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Jeff Laine wtf.jla...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:41:46PM -0800, Richard Yang wrote:
  yes,but i dpn't know how...
  it looks to me that all ports are closed
 
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:38 PM, michael michael.copel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  
  
   Richard Yang wrote:
  
   hi,
   when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote
 host
   is
   up.
   i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
   does anyone know how it is done?
   thanx
  
   rich
  
  
   uh, maybe because it responded?
  

 Check your firewall settings and run tcpdump  to be sure your host not
 sending
 any replies after scan attempt.

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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Yang
i havent tried nmap yet, but you said it also detected the remote, though no
port is open?

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Jeff Laine wtf.jla...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:32:51PM -0800, Richard Yang wrote:
  hi,
  when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host
 is
  up.
  i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
  does anyone know how it is done?
  thanx
 
  rich

 I can't tell about nessus but nmap does so after discovering any open
 ports,
 TCP RST responses from closed ports or ICMP responses from your host.
 I believe it's similar with the nessuss.


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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 09:57:09PM -0800, Richard Yang wrote:
 i havent tried nmap yet, but you said it also detected the remote, though no
 port is open?

ICMP doesn't require any open ports.
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Re: nessus report

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Yang
i ran a tcpdump.bsd box is responding to arp.
i guess this is fundamental, and should not be disabled
thanx guys

rich

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Richard Yang kusanagiy...@gmail.comwrote:

 hi,
 when i ran nessus against my bsd box, nessus can detect the remote host is
 up.
 i don't understand how nessus can detect it...
 does anyone know how it is done?
 thanx

 rich




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