Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-05 Thread Peter
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Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-05 Thread Gerard Seibert
Peter wrote: --- James Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:34:57 -0800 From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message

portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-04 Thread Kiffin Gish
I would like to know the difference between running: portupgrade -arR and portmanager -u Just curious is all, thanks. -- Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-04 Thread Peter
--- Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know the difference between running: portupgrade -arR and portmanager -u Just curious is all, thanks. I have found portmanager to be more intelligent. When you run it it takes a look at all installed ports and then it

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-04 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 04 March 2006 19:20, Peter wrote: --- Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know the difference between running: portupgrade -arR and portmanager -u Just curious is all, thanks. I have found portmanager to be more intelligent. When you run it it

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ...

2006-03-04 Thread James Long
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 19:34:57 -0800 From: Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager ... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-29 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote: Francisco Reyes wrote: /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree Interesting. Thanks! I wonder how that compares to portmanager. I have never used port manager, but pkg_tree only lets you see a tree of the ports. It doesn't help you manage them. I don't know if port

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread RW
On Monday 28 March 2005 06:41, Jay O'Brien wrote: stheg olloydson wrote: Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements. cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake, gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot bone's connected

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Randy Pratt
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:49:11 -0800 Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information on the various options. here is an example:

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:49 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information on the various options. here is an example: #

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Monday 28 March 2005 05:50 am, Randy Pratt wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:49:11 -0800 Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Jay O'Brien
RW wrote: make seach is documented in man ports It sure is! THANK YOU! Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Jay O'Brien
Randy, Mike: Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't considered a dependency that goes away after the dependent port is built. Now it makes perfect sense. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote: Alec Berryman wrote: Thanks for the heads up on 'make search', even if I can't find a complete description of the command. I find that it is referenced in the manual, however. Also check out the port /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree It's very usefull to see

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 06:20:00PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: Updating a computer, pkg_info reported I only had two packages, cvsup-without-gui-16.1h and perl-5.8.5, both of which were out of date as reported by pkg_version. I tried to install portmanager, but it was not able to get the

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Jay O'Brien
Francisco Reyes wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Jay O'Brien wrote: Thanks for the heads up on 'make search', even if I can't find a complete description of the command. I find that it is referenced in the manual, however. Also check out the port /usr/ports/sysutils/pkg_tree It's very

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-28 Thread Jay O'Brien
Alex de Kruijff wrote: You told your system to install portmanager and the ports that it needs, but also all the ports that are based on it. Please check 'man portupgrade' about the options. Good point, That is a man page I hadn't thought to review. Thank you! Jay

Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Jay O'Brien
Updating a computer, pkg_info reported I only had two packages, cvsup-without-gui-16.1h and perl-5.8.5, both of which were out of date as reported by pkg_version. I tried to install portmanager, but it was not able to get the needed files from http://portmanager.sunsite.dk. So, I installed

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Alec Berryman
Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800: Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If these all required to make portupgrade or perl work, where is that reference? They are required to build and run

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Jay O'Brien
Alec Berryman wrote: Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800: Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If these all required to make portupgrade or perl work, where is that reference? They are

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Abu Khaled
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:08:56 -0800, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alec Berryman wrote: Jay O'Brien on 2005-03-27 18:20:00 -0800: Now, pkg_info says I have 10 packages installed; added were ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool, portupgrade,ruby and ruby18. If these all

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Jay O'Brien
Abu Khaled wrote: ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool are the build dependencies for cvsup-without-gui. # cd /usr/ports # make search name=cvsup-without-gui Abu, I don't get that result. I only show ezm3-1.2. # cd /usr/ports # make search name=cvsup-without-gui Port:

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Abu Khaled
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:27:17 -0800, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abu Khaled wrote: ezm3, gettext, gmake, libiconv, libtool are the build dependencies for cvsup-without-gui. # cd /usr/ports # make search name=cvsup-without-gui Abu, I don't get that result. I only show

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said: If you updated your soirces/ports cvsup then portupgrade did what you asked it to do. It Updated all outdated packages/ports and there dependencies. I'm convinced that you are right. However, why don't I show the other dependencies? Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Jay O'Brien
stheg olloydson wrote: Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements. cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake, gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot bone's connected to the toe bone :). hth, stheg stheg, Thank

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:41 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: stheg olloydson wrote: Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements. cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake, gettext and libiconv. libiconv depends on libtool...and the foot bone's

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Abu Khaled
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:51:28 -0800, Michael C. Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:41 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: stheg olloydson wrote: Hello, They are recursive dependencies. Check each ports requirements. cvsup-without-gui depends on ezm3. ezm3 depends on gmake,

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said: But how does it work (/usr/ports/Makefile doesn't have a SEARCH statement) and is it documented somewhere, like in a MAN page? The handbook, ΒΆ4.3, mentions 'make search' but doesn't explain how it works. Hello, It uses /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk. I doubt the options in there

Re: Portupgrade (vs. Portmanager) question

2005-03-27 Thread Jay O'Brien
Michael C. Shultz wrote: It would be nice if the ports make options were better documented, but you can read through /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and find information on the various options. here is an example: # all-depends-list # - Show all directories which

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2005-01-01 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On 28 Dec Michael C. Shultz wrote: Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports. Am I to understand correctly that portmanager _always_ updates ALL the old ports? A 'pormanager -u sylpheed' is not

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2005-01-01 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 01 January 2005 04:30 am, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On 28 Dec Michael C. Shultz wrote: Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports. Am I to understand correctly that portmanager

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-28 Thread doug
Does portmanager handle packages? If not any plans to do so? I would be happy to help with testing. On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, Michael C. Shultz wrote: Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as far as

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 10:03 am, you wrote: Does portmanager handle packages? If not any plans to do so? I would be happy to help with testing. portmanager only handles packages in that it builds back up packages of each port it updates, these packages are correctly build for your

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-25 Thread Peter Schuller
Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue. Here is a recap of

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-25 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 25 December 2004 04:53 am, Peter Schuller wrote: Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I just wait untill

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread RW
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread Jay O'Brien
RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:02:30 -0800, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:54 am, RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread Peter Schuller
That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never had to run the

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-24 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 24 December 2004 03:52 pm, Peter Schuller wrote: That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right thing to do. One way

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:01:58PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-23 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-23 Thread Jay O'Brien
Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 I installed portupgrade

Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-23 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at