ps showing [appname] for some things -- how to get whole thing?

2007-03-07 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On my 6.1 system I have a script that launches some java programs  
[jdk142] and when I do a ps -auxwww I get the whole java command  
line that was used in launching.


On my 6.2 system with jdk15 teh scame scripts launch the same java  
programs but I just get [java] in the ps output.  Nothing in the ps  
manpage jumped out at me.  I would like to be able to get the whole  
commandline when I do the ps


Thanks
Chad

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Re: ps showing [appname] for some things -- how to get whole thing?

2007-03-07 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Mar 7, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On my 6.1 system I have a script that launches some java programs  
[jdk142] and when I do a ps -auxwww I get the whole java command  
line that was used in launching.


On my 6.2 system with jdk15 teh scame scripts launch the same java  
programs but I just get [java] in the ps output.  Nothing in the ps  
manpage jumped out at me.  I would like to be able to get the whole  
commandline when I do the ps


From the manpage:

 When printing using the command keyword, a process that has  
exited and
 has a parent that has not yet waited for the process (in other  
words, a
 zombie) is listed as ``defunct'', and a process which is  
blocked while
 trying to exit is listed as ``exiting''.  If the command  
vector cannot
 be located (usually because it has not been set, as is the case  
of system
 processes and/or kernel threads) the command name is printed  
within
 square brackets.  The ps utility makes an educated guess as to  
the file
 name and arguments given when the process was created by  
examining memory
 or the swap area.  The method is inherently somewhat unreliable  
and in
 any event a process is entitled to destroy this information, so  
the names
 cannot be depended on too much.  The ucomm (accounting) keyword  
can, how-

 ever, be depended on.

In other words, the process is allowed to over-write the environment  
(aka, the command line args  exported env variables) and that will  
prevent ps from reliably returning that info.  All you can be sure of  
it getting argv[0], which is used for accounting in the ucomm  
variable


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-Chuck

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Re: ps showing [appname] for some things -- how to get whole thing?

2007-03-07 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote:


On Mar 7, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
On my 6.1 system I have a script that launches some java programs  
[jdk142] and when I do a ps -auxwww I get the whole java command  
line that was used in launching.


On my 6.2 system with jdk15 teh scame scripts launch the same java  
programs but I just get [java] in the ps output.  Nothing in the  
ps manpage jumped out at me.  I would like to be able to get the  
whole commandline when I do the ps


From the manpage:

 When printing using the command keyword, a process that has  
exited and
 has a parent that has not yet waited for the process (in other  
words, a
 zombie) is listed as ``defunct'', and a process which is  
blocked while
 trying to exit is listed as ``exiting''.  If the command  
vector cannot
 be located (usually because it has not been set, as is the  
case of system
 processes and/or kernel threads) the command name is printed  
within
 square brackets.  The ps utility makes an educated guess as to  
the file
 name and arguments given when the process was created by  
examining memory
 or the swap area.  The method is inherently somewhat  
unreliable and in
 any event a process is entitled to destroy this information,  
so the names
 cannot be depended on too much.  The ucomm (accounting)  
keyword can, how-

 ever, be depended on.

In other words, the process is allowed to over-write the  
environment (aka, the command line args  exported env variables)  
and that will prevent ps from reliably returning that info.  All  
you can be sure of it getting argv[0], which is used for accounting  
in the ucomm variable


It turns out the difference between my two installations is that with  
the jdk142 procfs is also mounted and ps shows the complete command.   
On the server with jdk15 procfs is not mounted and does not.  jdk15  
also has an issue if procfs is mounted such that the java command  
does not work.  But I am running inside a jail so I could mount  
procfs on the base server outside the jail and do ps there and test  
this.  These tests show that the procfs makes the difference.


Chad

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