Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:40:13 +
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

>Some people argue that the cursor should start-off at the top because
>you should start by removing superfluous quoted text before bottom
>posting.

If only that were true.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-08 Thread RW
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:25:12 +0200
Jonathan McKeown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 08 November 2008 13:55, Jerry wrote:
>
> The best response to the issue of Outlook and top-posting I've seen
> recently was on the London Perlmongers mailing list 
> ...
> "The last I checked, cursor keys worked in Outlook just fine without
> any third-party hacks, so there is no reason for top-posting just
> because the cursor happens to be there.

Some people argue that the cursor should start-off at the top because
you should start by removing superfluous quoted text before bottom
posting.
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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-08 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Saturday 08 November 2008 13:55, Jerry wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700
>
> Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >. . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll
> >to the end before typing.  It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook.
>
>  works like a charm also. It is amazing what people will
> bitch at. The same people who will spend days attempting to get a video
> card fully functional will find placing the cursor at the end of an
> email message too daunting of a task.

The best response to the issue of Outlook and top-posting I've seen recently 
was on the London Perlmongers mailing list - although I should warn that some 
may find this offensive.


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"The last I checked, cursor keys worked in Outlook just fine without any
third-party hacks, so there is no reason for top-posting just because the
cursor happens to be there. It's a bit like crapping in your pants because
that's where your arse happens to be." -- Peter Corlett, london.pm

Jonathan
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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-08 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700
Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>. . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll
>to the end before typing.  It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook.

 works like a charm also. It is amazing what people will
bitch at. The same people who will spend days attempting to get a video
card fully functional will find placing the cursor at the end of an
email message too daunting of a task.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-07 Thread Daniel Howard
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:51:06AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about
>> > it.
>> > sorry
>>
>> Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or 
>
> . . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll to
> the end before typing.  It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook.

Press the END key.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:51:06AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about
> > it.
> > sorry
> 
> Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or 

. . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll to
the end before typing.  It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-07 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:37:21 +0100, Frank Staals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well not realy solution for the problem you mentioned. But if you have a 
> bit of a programming background you may want to take a look at TeX/LaTeX 
> for you documents. I know it may be like using a cannon to kill a fly 
> but I prefer writing my documents in my basic-text editor using  TeX 
> much rather than in a a word-like application.

A big advantage is that LaTeX source files are plain text, so they
can be transferred between systems without problems. Furthermore,
you don't need a particular program to read a file.


> Besides that it looks a 
> lot better IMO.

>From the standpoint of typography LaTeX is superior to any WYSIWYG
word processor. Why? Because it's a professional typesetting system.
Hyphenation, paragraph setting, picture adjustment and other things
tha are important are handled correctly. The support for other
languages (e. g. German) is excellent.


> Might be something to look into if you are not realy 
> satisfied with word-processors.

An alternative to use the power of LaTeX without needing to know
about the macros is to use LyX. But using LaTeX itself is much
easier.

The difference between LaTeX and the usual wprd processors is like
the difference between HTML (created by hand) and the crap that
comes out of authoring systems and CMSs.

I'm doing most of my stuff with LaTeX: Letters (dinbrief class),
technical documentation, statistics (in combination with gnuplot),
books (stories), lists and forms. When you're familiar with
LaTeX, you won't want to miss it, because you can work faster
*and* get better results than anyone with the usual "Word" skills,
clickity click, nyak nyak, blah blah. :-)



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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-07 Thread Frank Staals

FBSD1 wrote:

Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in
ms/word format.

Thanks for your help.

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Well not realy solution for the problem you mentioned. But if you have a 
bit of a programming background you may want to take a look at TeX/LaTeX 
for you documents. I know it may be like using a cannon to kill a fly 
but I prefer writing my documents in my basic-text editor using  TeX 
much rather than in a a word-like application. Besides that it looks a 
lot better IMO. Might be something to look into if you are not realy 
satisfied with word-processors.


Good luck,

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-07 Thread Al Plant

FBSD1 wrote:

Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in
ms/word format.

Thanks for your help.

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Aloha,  

I use ABIword from ports.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Ross Cameron
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about
> it.
> sorry


Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or 
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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Matt Emmerton

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about 
it.

sorry



You could disable "include original message".

Or use better software.


Or just scroll down the to bottom of the message before typing anything.

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread joeb

> >
On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote:
>   I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
> release 6 stable.
>   It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Take a look at abiword.

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I installed abiword but it has bug on start up wanting to access some
server.
Gives popup window about error contacting some server. After clicking on OK
button it works ok. But can't have error every time on startup




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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it.
> sorry
>

You could disable "include original message".

Or use better software.

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it.
sorry

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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:18 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release
> 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Please don't top-post.  OpenOffice packages are available via the
FreeBSD FTP sites.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Error: FTP Unable to get
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7
> .1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
> access)
>
> Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package?
>

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.4-release/All/openoffice.org-2.4.1_2.tbz

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7
.1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no
access)

Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package?


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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
release
> 6 stable.
>It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

There is a package available.  I installed it yesterday.  Look at the ftp
site.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread John Nielsen
> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" 
> > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
> > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
> > document in
> > ms/word format.
> >
On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote:
>   I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd
> release 6 stable.
>   It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Take a look at abiword.

JN
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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Sahil Tandon
FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release
> 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

Please don't top-post.  OpenOffice packages are available via the
FreeBSD FTP sites.

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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd 
> release
> 6 stable.
>It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

There is a package available.  I installed it yesterday.  Look at the ftp site.

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RE: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd 
release
6 stable.
It takes a very very long time to compile this port.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

OpenOffice.org 3.  There's a port.

- mdh

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" 
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
> Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
> document in
> ms/word format.
>
> Thanks for your help.





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Re: recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread mdh
OpenOffice.org 3.  There's a port.  

- mdh

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: FBSD1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG" 
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
> Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output
> document in
> ms/word format.
> 
> Thanks for your help.



  
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recommendation word processer for xfce

2008-11-06 Thread FBSD1
Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in
ms/word format.

Thanks for your help.

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