Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: On 09/23/11 14:11, Jerry McAllister wrote: Why would you interject NFS in the middle of it? jerry There would be no middle. I would run rsyncd or nfsd, but not both. Ah, I get it. In that case, I think rsync is probably more useful than NFS because it can check and only copy modified files. Alternatively, if you are doing backups to recover from system failures - such as a disk crash, you would probably prefer dump(8)/restore(8) They can write to a file on the other machine, can do change dumps and they preserve all the needed UNIX attributes. I actually do a dump piped to a restore on another disk as a convenient backup to handle my all too frequent cases of fumble fingers and sleep deprived bad thinking where I need to quickly get back a file I mangled, deleted or need to start over on. Restore can easily pull single files or directory trees from a dump file as well. But having it already pre-restored makes it easier -- and only doubles my disk use - disk is cheap isn't it. jerry Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On 09/23/11 14:11, Jerry McAllister wrote: Why would you interject NFS in the middle of it? jerry There would be no middle. I would run rsyncd or nfsd, but not both. Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On 09/23/11 14:15, Chuck Swiger wrote: Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also Regards, Ah the handbook. I forgot all about it. Thanks. Later, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
I'm sure you'll get a TON of responses on this. Maybe some script that combines tar, g[b]zip, and rsync? I wouldn't use NFS just for this, but if it's already there it may have a place. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jason C. Wells Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:04 PM To: freebsd general questions Subject: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync can be used effectively. The optimum solution really depends on how much total disk and how much changes between each run. Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Why would you interject NFS in the middle of it? jerry Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells j...@speakeasy.net wrote: I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? rsync is good for mirroring one file tree to another. If you want a complete backup system centering around rsync, check out BackupPC. NFS will let you mount one server's files from another, but you'll still need to use something to copy the files over; either rsync or something else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Jason C. Wells wrote: Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? It's OK. A versioned backup system (dump/restore, Legato Networker, Amanda, Retrospect, etc) is more efficient at using backup storage. Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. If it's local and you already have NFS in place, that would be fine. If you're backing up over a WAN, rsyncd is probably a better call. What's the better solution I haven't considered? Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011, Jason C. Wells wrote: I am looking into finally setting up a backup solution that's a little more sophisticated than a bunch of DVD-RWs. I have two servers. I'd like to make each a backup server for the other. I'm considering using rsync. Is rsync a good choice for a backup tool? Should I use the rsyncd or should I use NFS? I'm using 100 mbps ethernet. What's the better solution I haven't considered? We use rsync extensively for backups on local LANs as well as off-site via the 'Net. My experience using NFS for this was not good, but it's been many years since I last tried this so I don't remember the details. Bill -- INTERNET: b...@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Windows is a computer virus with a user interface!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync over nfs or rsync protocol
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: Lots. The handbook has a chapter on backups which is worth reading, also True. Personally, I like dump/restore for disaster-recovery backups on FreeBSD. However, if you frequently need individual file recovery (e.g., Joe User deletes an important file and wants it back) or if you need to back up systems running something other than FreeBSD, BackupPC is hard to beat for disk-to-disk backup. If you're going to tape you might want something like Amanda, instead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org