Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. Fixed awhile ago unless there is new bug on that. Haven't tried. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/161674 -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Warren, you're right but i want to set journaling in fixit mode in fixit mode none of my partitions are mounted (mount command show no partition) but geom returns error yet. is there any way to tell geom that my partitions are unmounted? On 5/23/13, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2013, Torsten Hantzsche wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2013, s m wrote: thanks, i do as you said, but after loading gjournal, dd says operation not permitted. gjournal clear says operation not permitted too and therefore gjournal label is not done and say previous error (gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted). and -v return no extra log. i don't know why i can not do any thing in fixit mode:( is this a true procedure? i mean maybe i should do any thing else because freebsd handbook set journaling for user partition in single user mode not in fixit mode. i test it and it works well, but for root partition i can not do the same because root partition can not be unmount in single user mode. any hints or comments are really appreciated. thanks in advance Hi, i remember having similar error messages with glabel some years ago. The solution was found in man 4 geom in section DIAGNOSTICS: I had to set kern.geom.debugflags=0x10 to enable the foot shooting mode. Maybe this could help you too? For certain values of help. :) If geom won't let you write to part of a disk, it's because it thinks that part of the disk is already in use, usually by a mounted filesystem. Overwriting part of a filesystem is not guaranteed to lose data. But why take the chance? Better to boot from mfsBSD (http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/). Possibly better yet to use SUJ, which can be enabled with tunefs with the root partition mounted read-only in single user mode. SUJ has its own problems, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Michael for your quick reply:) yes, i can boot from usb freebsd flash and use fixit mode. i have root, var, tmp, usr and swap on my system. i create an extra swap partition to use it as journal provider for root partition. in fixit mode, first i run two below command in order to abel load gjournal: ln -s /dist/lib /lib ls -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot/modules then gjournal load and after that: gjournal label -f ad3s1a ad3s1g (ad3s1a is root partition and ad3s1g is swap partition for journal provider) but this error is shown: gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted what is wrong here??? i really don't know how to fix it: Try using -v to get more verbose output. I am at a loss here, too. Perhaps you can try gjournal load dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad3s1g bs=1m gjournal clear -v ad3s1a gjournal label -vf ad3s1a ad3s1g and see what it says, if anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks, i do as you said, but after loading gjournal, dd says operation not permitted. gjournal clear says operation not permitted too and therefore gjournal label is not done and say previous error (gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted). and -v return no extra log. i don't know why i can not do any thing in fixit mode:( is this a true procedure? i mean maybe i should do any thing else because freebsd handbook set journaling for user partition in single user mode not in fixit mode. i test it and it works well, but for root partition i can not do the same because root partition can not be unmount in single user mode. any hints or comments are really appreciated. thanks in advance On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Michael for your quick reply:) yes, i can boot from usb freebsd flash and use fixit mode. i have root, var, tmp, usr and swap on my system. i create an extra swap partition to use it as journal provider for root partition. in fixit mode, first i run two below command in order to abel load gjournal: ln -s /dist/lib /lib ls -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot/modules then gjournal load and after that: gjournal label -f ad3s1a ad3s1g (ad3s1a is root partition and ad3s1g is swap partition for journal provider) but this error is shown: gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted what is wrong here??? i really don't know how to fix it: Try using -v to get more verbose output. I am at a loss here, too. Perhaps you can try gjournal load dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad3s1g bs=1m gjournal clear -v ad3s1a gjournal label -vf ad3s1a ad3s1g and see what it says, if anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Thu, 23 May 2013, s m wrote: thanks, i do as you said, but after loading gjournal, dd says operation not permitted. gjournal clear says operation not permitted too and therefore gjournal label is not done and say previous error (gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted). and -v return no extra log. i don't know why i can not do any thing in fixit mode:( is this a true procedure? i mean maybe i should do any thing else because freebsd handbook set journaling for user partition in single user mode not in fixit mode. i test it and it works well, but for root partition i can not do the same because root partition can not be unmount in single user mode. any hints or comments are really appreciated. thanks in advance Hi, i remember having similar error messages with glabel some years ago. The solution was found in man 4 geom in section DIAGNOSTICS: I had to set kern.geom.debugflags=0x10 to enable the foot shooting mode. Maybe this could help you too? Torsten ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:57:50 +0430 s m wrote: my problem is, i can not run gjournal command for root partition in fixit mode nor single user mode. Just to check, you did boot into single user mode rather than shut-down into single user mode? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Torsten but it can't help me:(( and RW, yes i can boot to single user mode, but i can't do anything there!!! i mean when i run command gjournal label -f ad3s1a ad3s1g some errors returned and all my partition disappear!! what do you do if you want to set a journal partition for your root partition? can you tell me step by step to compare it with my steps? i really don't know how to set a journal partition for my root:(( i think it is so simple but it make me busy more than a week:( On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:57:50 +0430 s m wrote: my problem is, i can not run gjournal command for root partition in fixit mode nor single user mode. Just to check, you did boot into single user mode rather than shut-down into single user mode? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Thu, 23 May 2013, Torsten Hantzsche wrote: On Thu, 23 May 2013, s m wrote: thanks, i do as you said, but after loading gjournal, dd says operation not permitted. gjournal clear says operation not permitted too and therefore gjournal label is not done and say previous error (gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted). and -v return no extra log. i don't know why i can not do any thing in fixit mode:( is this a true procedure? i mean maybe i should do any thing else because freebsd handbook set journaling for user partition in single user mode not in fixit mode. i test it and it works well, but for root partition i can not do the same because root partition can not be unmount in single user mode. any hints or comments are really appreciated. thanks in advance Hi, i remember having similar error messages with glabel some years ago. The solution was found in man 4 geom in section DIAGNOSTICS: I had to set kern.geom.debugflags=0x10 to enable the foot shooting mode. Maybe this could help you too? For certain values of help. :) If geom won't let you write to part of a disk, it's because it thinks that part of the disk is already in use, usually by a mounted filesystem. Overwriting part of a filesystem is not guaranteed to lose data. But why take the chance? Better to boot from mfsBSD (http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/). Possibly better yet to use SUJ, which can be enabled with tunefs with the root partition mounted read-only in single user mode. SUJ has its own problems, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Michael, but in all documentation about journaling, tunefs is used as below: tunefs -J enable ad3s1X.journal. ad3s1X.journal is created by gjournal command: gjournal label ad3s1a ad3s1g that assign ad3s1g as journal provider for ad3s1a and create ad3s1a.journal which contains ad3s1a as data provider and ad3s1g as journal provider. my problem is, i can not run gjournal command for root partition in fixit mode nor single user mode. you mean, i should just use tunefs command on ad3s1X (root partition)? if yes, then where journal provider for root partition is located? in root partition? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys for your attentions. i want to setup journaling in FreeBSD 8.2. i compare soft-update and journaling and choose journaling (it is more suitable for my goals). i want to enable journaling for all my partitions. i can do it for all partitions except root in single user mode. i can not do it for root because i can not unmount root in single user mode. No, but you don't need to. In single user mode, root is mounted read-only. You can run tunefs on the root fs device. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Michael, but in all documentation about journaling, tunefs is used as below: tunefs -J enable ad3s1X.journal. ad3s1X.journal is created by gjournal command: gjournal label ad3s1a ad3s1g that assign ad3s1g as journal provider for ad3s1a and create ad3s1a.journal which contains ad3s1a as data provider and ad3s1g as journal provider. my problem is, i can not run gjournal command for root partition in fixit mode nor single user mode. you mean, i should just use tunefs command on ad3s1X (root partition)? if yes, then where journal provider for root partition is located? in root partition? Ah, sorry - lack of careful reading on my part. Can you boot from installation media and use the fixit mode? This still won't work if the last sector of the partition is in use by the filesystem You'll need a spare partition of some size to be the journal provider, as in the example. The very best approach is to create a gjournal and then newfs. How is your disk organized? One big root partition with everything on it? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Michael for your quick reply:) yes, i can boot from usb freebsd flash and use fixit mode. i have root, var, tmp, usr and swap on my system. i create an extra swap partition to use it as journal provider for root partition. in fixit mode, first i run two below command in order to abel load gjournal: ln -s /dist/lib /lib ls -s /dist/boot/kernel /boot/modules then gjournal load and after that: gjournal label -f ad3s1a ad3s1g (ad3s1a is root partition and ad3s1g is swap partition for journal provider) but this error is shown: gjournal cannot clear metadata on ad3s1a: operation not permitted what is wrong here??? i really don't know how to fix it: On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Michael, but in all documentation about journaling, tunefs is used as below: tunefs -J enable ad3s1X.journal. ad3s1X.journal is created by gjournal command: gjournal label ad3s1a ad3s1g that assign ad3s1g as journal provider for ad3s1a and create ad3s1a.journal which contains ad3s1a as data provider and ad3s1g as journal provider. my problem is, i can not run gjournal command for root partition in fixit mode nor single user mode. you mean, i should just use tunefs command on ad3s1X (root partition)? if yes, then where journal provider for root partition is located? in root partition? Ah, sorry - lack of careful reading on my part. Can you boot from installation media and use the fixit mode? This still won't work if the last sector of the partition is in use by the filesystem You'll need a spare partition of some size to be the journal provider, as in the example. The very best approach is to create a gjournal and then newfs. How is your disk organized? One big root partition with everything on it? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
setup journaling for root partition
hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. i try to do it in fixiit mode, but i can not load gjournal. do i use gpart to partitioning my system and enable journaling for root partition? isn't there any way to setup journaling for my existing root partition? which command should be used (or is better to used) to enable journaling? tunefs, gjournal or newfs? please help me to setup a journal partition for my root. thanks in advance SAM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Michael this is what i've done (based on the FreeBSD handbook): creating a partition for journal, go to single user mode, unmount desired partition (for example /usr), load gjournal, add journal partition to /usr partition. this procedure works well for user and other partitions except root because i can not unmount it. should i set up journaling in fixit mode with gpart? how? i try different ways but none of them work for me:(( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
gjournal should not be used anymore as it has been implemented in the file system code ... On 05/21/2013 11:24, s m wrote: thanks Michael this is what i've done (based on the FreeBSD handbook): creating a partition for journal, go to single user mode, unmount desired partition (for example /usr), load gjournal, add journal partition to /usr partition. this procedure works well for user and other partitions except root because i can not unmount it. should i set up journaling in fixit mode with gpart? how? i try different ways but none of them work for me:(( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
you mean that journaling is enabled by default i don't think so. i think i misunderstanding. may i ask you to explain it more clear? On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Julien Cigar jci...@ulb.ac.be wrote: gjournal should not be used anymore as it has been implemented in the file system code ... On 05/21/2013 11:24, s m wrote: thanks Michael this is what i've done (based on the FreeBSD handbook): creating a partition for journal, go to single user mode, unmount desired partition (for example /usr), load gjournal, add journal partition to /usr partition. this procedure works well for user and other partitions except root because i can not unmount it. should i set up journaling in fixit mode with gpart? how? i try different ways but none of them work for me:(( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On 05/21/2013 12:10, s m wrote: you mean that journaling is enabled by default i don't think so. i think i misunderstanding. may i ask you to explain it more clear? gjournal is journaling through GEOM. Since Freebsd 9 soft-updates journaling has been implemented for UFS. So if you want journaling for an UFS FS there is no reason to use gjournal anymore. (check manpages of newfs and/or tunefs and the -j and the -J flags) On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Julien Cigar jci...@ulb.ac.be mailto:jci...@ulb.ac.be wrote: gjournal should not be used anymore as it has been implemented in the file system code ... On 05/21/2013 11:24, s m wrote: thanks Michael this is what i've done (based on the FreeBSD handbook): creating a partition for journal, go to single user mode, unmount desired partition (for example /usr), load gjournal, add journal partition to /usr partition. this procedure works well for user and other partitions except root because i can not unmount it. should i set up journaling in fixit mode with gpart? how? i try different ways but none of them work for me:(( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com mailto:ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com mailto:sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks Julien, but i think it's not true. man page for newfs seys that journaling is done via gjournal and in freebsd handbook it says do journaling with gjournal for UFS file system. you mean i should create a partition and just enable journaling for it with -J flag? i think my problem is, my gjournal can not act correctly in fixit mode because i can load it in single user mode and every thing is ok but in fixit mode, i can not load it and all commands return errors. please help me to make a journal for my root:((( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Julien Cigar jci...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 05/21/2013 12:10, s m wrote: you mean that journaling is enabled by default i don't think so. i think i misunderstanding. may i ask you to explain it more clear? gjournal is journaling through GEOM. Since Freebsd 9 soft-updates journaling has been implemented for UFS. So if you want journaling for an UFS FS there is no reason to use gjournal anymore. (check manpages of newfs and/or tunefs and the -j and the -J flags) On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Julien Cigar jci...@ulb.ac.be mailto: jci...@ulb.ac.be wrote: gjournal should not be used anymore as it has been implemented in the file system code ... On 05/21/2013 11:24, s m wrote: thanks Michael this is what i've done (based on the FreeBSD handbook): creating a partition for journal, go to single user mode, unmount desired partition (for example /usr), load gjournal, add journal partition to /usr partition. this procedure works well for user and other partitions except root because i can not unmount it. should i set up journaling in fixit mode with gpart? how? i try different ways but none of them work for me:(( On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com mailto:ku...@tenebras.com**wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:59 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com mailto:sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: hello everybody i want to setup a journal partition for my root partition. but i do not know how to do that. in FreeBSD handbook, it is done in single user mode, unmount the desired partition and assign the journal partition to it. i test this procedure and it is done for /usr partition but for root partition, it can not be unmount in single user mode. See the man page on gjournal To configure journaling on the UFS file system using gjournal, one should first create a gjournal provider using the gjournal utility, then run newfs(8) or tunefs(8) on it with the -J flag which instructs UFS to coop- erate with the gjournal provider below. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@**freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-**unsubscr...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-**unsubscr...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@**freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-**unsubscr...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-**unsubscr...@freebsd.orgfreebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- *Sa.M* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Tue, 21 May 2013 06:43:34 -0500, saeedeh motlagh saeedeh.motl...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Julien, but i think it's not true. man page for newfs seys that journaling is done via gjournal and in freebsd handbook it says do journaling with gjournal for UFS file system. No, he's right. It's generally not recommended to use gjournal anymore. It's still supported for those that have existing implementations and want to be able to update their FreeBSD install without breaking their filesystems. UFS' SUJ (soft updates journaling) is what you should be using. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On 05/21/13 12:43, saeedeh motlagh wrote: thanks Julien, but i think it's not true. man page for newfs seys that journaling is done via gjournal and in freebsd handbook it says do journaling with gjournal for UFS file system. you mean i should create a partition and just enable journaling for it with -J flag? i think my problem is, my gjournal can not act correctly in fixit mode because i can load it in single user mode and every thing is ok but in fixit mode, i can not load it and all commands return errors. please help me to make a journal for my root:((( Look more carefully at the newfs man page. Option -J (upper case) is gjournal type journalling, option -j (lower case) is native UFS soft update journalling. It's the latter one you want. This is on RELEASE-9.1 though. What version are you on? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. - M On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: On 05/21/13 12:43, saeedeh motlagh wrote: thanks Julien, but i think it's not true. man page for newfs seys that journaling is done via gjournal and in freebsd handbook it says do journaling with gjournal for UFS file system. you mean i should create a partition and just enable journaling for it with -J flag? i think my problem is, my gjournal can not act correctly in fixit mode because i can load it in single user mode and every thing is ok but in fixit mode, i can not load it and all commands return errors. please help me to make a journal for my root:((( Look more carefully at the newfs man page. Option -J (upper case) is gjournal type journalling, option -j (lower case) is native UFS soft update journalling. It's the latter one you want. This is on RELEASE-9.1 though. What version are you on? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On 05/21/13 15:46, Michael Sierchio wrote: AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. Good point, I'd forgotten that problem as I don't use UFS snapshots. I can imagine it would be a killer for some people. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Tue, 21 May 2013, Arthur Chance wrote: On 05/21/13 15:46, Michael Sierchio wrote: AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. Good point, I'd forgotten that problem as I don't use UFS snapshots. I can imagine it would be a killer for some people. It is, especially if you use dump/restore. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013, Arthur Chance wrote: On 05/21/13 15:46, Michael Sierchio wrote: AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. Good point, I'd forgotten that problem as I don't use UFS snapshots. I can imagine it would be a killer for some people. It is, especially if you use dump/restore. Or tarsnap (which is what we use for backups here), or... there are many use cases for snapshots. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
thanks guys for your attentions. i want to setup journaling in FreeBSD 8.2. i compare soft-update and journaling and choose journaling (it is more suitable for my goals). i want to enable journaling for all my partitions. i can do it for all partitions except root in single user mode. i can not do it for root because i can not unmount root in single user mode. please let me know how set a journal provider for my root partition in FreeBSD 8.2. thank you so much On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.comwrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2013, Arthur Chance wrote: On 05/21/13 15:46, Michael Sierchio wrote: AFAIK Softupdates journaling still breaks snapshot functionality - which makes it unusable for me. I wouldn't assume that the O.P. doesn't want we he's asking for. Good point, I'd forgotten that problem as I don't use UFS snapshots. I can imagine it would be a killer for some people. It is, especially if you use dump/restore. Or tarsnap (which is what we use for backups here), or... there are many use cases for snapshots. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: setup journaling for root partition
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM, s m sam.gh1...@gmail.com wrote: thanks guys for your attentions. i want to setup journaling in FreeBSD 8.2. i compare soft-update and journaling and choose journaling (it is more suitable for my goals). i want to enable journaling for all my partitions. i can do it for all partitions except root in single user mode. i can not do it for root because i can not unmount root in single user mode. No, but you don't need to. In single user mode, root is mounted read-only. You can run tunefs on the root fs device. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
