RE: trouble installing new printer

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Ivan,

  OK I hope this isn't going to sound to nasty but I'm going to
say it anyway.

  Did it ever occur to you that it might have been a better idea to
post to the mailing list and ask what a good printer to buy would
be BEFORE buying this printer?  There are websites specifically
http://www.linuxprinting.org that are set up for this - your Canon
isn't even listed on that one.  Why - because nobody buys Canon
printers that use them under FreeBSD or Linux - and the reason is
pretty clearly stated on this page here:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html

...There are few good free software drivers for Canon and Lexmark
inkjets. Do not buy one and expect success...

  In short, you gave your money to a company that hasn't lifted a finger
to support any Open Source operating systems - and you didn't give your
money to a printer manufacturer who has spent money supporting Open
Source operating systems.  Now, please explain how doing this is going
to encourage more support of Open Source operating systems by printer
manufacturers?

  Also one other thing - according to this website:

http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/printers/bubble_jet/archiv
e.asp

  your printer is no longer in production.  If you just bought this
printer you got it from a closeout bargain basement dealer for a
cheap closeout price.  It is not like you have a lot of money invested
in this printer, then.

  My advice to you is you need to treat this as a fairly cheap but
important lesson on purchasing computer peripherals.  I would also
point out that just about all inkjet printers are designed as devices
that force the user to spend a lot of money on inkjet cartridges.
Your cost per page from this printer will be -far higher- than that
of a decent laser printer, and if you do any amount of black and
white printing your going to save money if you get a black and white
printer and save the bubble jet for printing color, only.  Even a
dot-matrix would be far cheaper.

  Beyond this the only other thing I can offer you is that if you are
using the parallel port to the printer you might try the USB port
instead.  I can't guarantee it will work at all, but USB is faster
than parallel.  a LOT faster.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:16 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: trouble installing new printer


Hi all,

my previous (and still unanswered) message was:

---
Hi,

I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer
install on
FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the
handbook. But when
running the really simple 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' command, nothing
happened,
excepted the flashing light on the printer.

The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light
is flashing
longer with lptest  /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5  /dev/lpt0.

I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and
activated the lf
capability.

And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result.

I tried many research on the net but could not find anything
useful. I am now
installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the
compilation process.

Thank you.
---

So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I
tested Canon BJC-800
and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible).

Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5
minutes for a simple
plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ?

I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it.

So at that point:
- I can print
- I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the
handbook printed.


Do you have anything to suggest to me ?

--
Regards, Ivan
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release
Date: 1/16/2006


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: trouble installing new printer

2006-01-18 Thread ivan . roth
Hi Ted,

don't worry about what your mail sounds, it is ok :)

You're right on every points. I do not need to print so much. In fact, I am
translating the printing chapter of the handbook to french and I just wanted to
test the parallel interface. I bought this printer for 70$ (approx.). In fact,
it is just the cost for knowledge :)

Yes I should have choose a compatible printer, but it was the cheapest one and I
am sure I will have good results. Some website pointed me to the BJC-8200 driver
and I got some results with the BJC-800 one.

I am not a politic man but I think one company you may consider working for open
source is HP, especially when they give the FBSD foundation important gifts. I
worked for them and I had to change my job because of their restructuration
plan (I was like a collateral damage, not a directly fired guy).

Everybody will have his point of view. I promised myself never buy Canon
printers again after my i320.

But for sure, when time will come for me to have an everyday-printing printer,
I will choose it carefuly, and spend as much money as necessary.


P.S: a simple PS just about USB printers: the chapter I am translating
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html) said USB is
superior to RS-232 Serial and to Parallel for printing, but it is not as well
supported under UNIX® systems.
I will test USB connection of course and maybe submit an update for this
chapter.

--
Regards, Ivan.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: trouble installing new printer

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: trouble installing new printer


Hi Ted,

don't worry about what your mail sounds, it is ok :)

You're right on every points. I do not need to print so much.
In fact, I am
translating the printing chapter of the handbook to french and
I just wanted to
test the parallel interface. I bought this printer for 70$
(approx.). In fact,
it is just the cost for knowledge :)

Yes I should have choose a compatible printer, but it was the
cheapest one and I
am sure I will have good results. Some website pointed me to
the BJC-8200 driver
and I got some results with the BJC-800 one.

I am not a politic man but I think one company you may consider
working for open
source is HP, especially when they give the FBSD foundation
important gifts. I
worked for them and I had to change my job because of their
restructuration
plan (I was like a collateral damage, not a directly fired guy).

Everybody will have his point of view. I promised myself never buy Canon
printers again after my i320.

But for sure, when time will come for me to have an
everyday-printing printer,
I will choose it carefuly, and spend as much money as necessary.


P.S: a simple PS just about USB printers: the chapter I am translating
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/printing.html)
said USB is
superior to RS-232 Serial and to Parallel for printing, but it
is not as well
supported under UNIX® systems.
I will test USB connection of course and maybe submit an update for this
chapter.


Also you can try changing the mode of the parallel port, from ecp to
centronics, etc.  That can sometimes help.

Ted

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


trouble installing new printer

2006-01-16 Thread ivan . roth
Hi all,

my previous (and still unanswered) message was:

---
Hi,

I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer install on
FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the handbook. But when
running the really simple 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' command, nothing happened,
excepted the flashing light on the printer.

The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light is flashing
longer with lptest  /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5  /dev/lpt0.

I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and activated the lf
capability.

And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result.

I tried many research on the net but could not find anything useful. I am now
installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the compilation process.

Thank you.
---

So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I tested Canon BJC-800
and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible).

Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5 minutes for a simple
plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ?

I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it.

So at that point:
- I can print
- I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the
handbook printed.


Do you have anything to suggest to me ?

-- 
Regards, Ivan
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: trouble installing new printer

2006-01-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 
 my previous (and still unanswered) message was:
 
 ---
 Hi,
 
 I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer install on
 FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the handbook. But when
 running the really simple 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' command, nothing happened,
 excepted the flashing light on the printer.
 
 The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light is flashing
 longer with lptest  /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5  /dev/lpt0.
 
 I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and activated the 
 lf
 capability.
 
 And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result.
 
 I tried many research on the net but could not find anything useful. I am now
 installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the compilation process.
 
 Thank you.
 ---
 
 So now I installed apsfilter and had to choose a driver. I tested Canon 
 BJC-800
 and two or three from the BJC-8200 (said mostly compatible).
 
 Ok, I got a printed output, but my printers needs approx. 5 minutes for a 
 simple
 plain text page. That is quite painfuly slow, isn't it ?
 
 I even tried the turboprint driver, but got nothing whith it.
 
 So at that point:
 - I can print
 - I can go to sleep for a whole week before getting one chapter from the
 handbook printed.
 
 
 Do you have anything to suggest to me ?

You're probably running into problems with the parallel driver rather
than the ghostscript (printer) driver.  Try setting the parallel port
to polling.  (See the FreeBSD FAQ entry for My parallel printer is
ridiculously slow. What can I do?.)
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


trouble installing new printer

2006-01-14 Thread ivan . roth
Hi,

I just bought a Canon i865 yesterday. This is my first printer install on
FreeBSD. I, of course, followed the steps described in the handbook. But when
running the really simple 'lptest  /dev/lpt0' command, nothing happened,
excepted the flashing light on the printer.

The flashing time is depending of the job size, i.e. the light is flashing
longer with lptest  /dev/lpt0 than with lptest 20 5  /dev/lpt0.

I decided to go a bit firther and configured /etc/printcap, and activated the lf
capability.

And running lptest 20 5 | lpr -Pmy-printer gave again the same result.

I tried many research on the net but could not find anything useful. I am now
installing apsfilter but ask you for some help during the compilation process.

Thank you.

-- 
Regards, Ivan.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]